On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Chip is correct. The tools we use in board meetings make it easy for us to
> see how many PMC members in a TLP resolution are members. If there are not
> enough we will sometimes put the project on an informal "watch list" (as
> well as ensuring appropriate people from the PMC go on the members watch
> list), occasionally we bounce the proposal back (this is pretty rare).
>
> With my Directors hat on I don't want a member being there just for
> mentoring, it confuses the evaluation since that person will appear as a
> committed PMC member but will in fact be nothing more than a mentor. What
> is important is that the PMC knows where to go for help when they are
> unsure of something. That expertise can (and should be) be present without
> a mentor or a Member on the PMC.
>
> Maybe there's a hair to be split here. On a few occasions, I was asked by
board members if I would join a graduating PMC that I had mentored. I have
never felt that my role on these PMCs was to be a continuing mentor, it was
to be a PMC member who had some extra experience, and I have been gradually
leaving them over time.

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