On Monday, December 22, 2014, Sean Owen <sro...@apache.org> wrote: > I was going to ask the same. I've seen ~5 proposals now, and was > surprised to see how they all copied and pasted the same boilerplate > to answer several points, including this stanza about risk of > excessive fascination with the brand.
being one that just championed a project, I can say that this question was the least understandable, I only understood the difference after a discussion. Maybe we could word it better. Something along the lines what does brand apache mean to the project, compared to the apache way. > > I also suspect that there is excessive fascination, and that paying > lip service to it as a risk is not really sufficient. That may be > another discussion. > > But concretely: what about just asking proposers to not copy and paste > past proposals? Surely it's not so much to ask the proposed project to > address, individually and from scratch, the issues raised by the > proposal process. Or, explicitly ask the proposal to address why the > project should be part of the ASF, now -- that is, what *else* besides > becoming "Apache Foo" is the motivation? i think the question is a good idea. copy/paste is hard to avoid on some of the questions. rgds jan i > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > I was wondering... What we *REALLY* want are projects > > that are interested more in The Apache Way than in the > > Apache Brand. We need to make it more clear, somehow, > > that new projects want to enter the ASF because they > > approve of, and want to follow, the *how* of creating > > projects and communities. Lately, it appears, that we > > have graduated projects which are more interested in > > simply being able to add 'Apache' to their name, and > > then deride/minimize/ignore/dispute most/all of the > > aspects of The Apache Way which is what made the Apache > > brand so valuable and noteworthy. > > > > Maybe we need to change the proposal guide. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > <javascript:;> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > <javascript:;> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > <javascript:;> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > <javascript:;> > > -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
