On 6 November 2014 03:31, Reza <reza.nagh...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

> Of course, discussion is more than welcomed.
> >> Seems a little weird to have such a small team to begin with.  How have
> you grown?
> This is a concern of the project. The PMC is indeed small. More than half
> of the original group has not participated in the last year and have not
> voiced that they would like to continue on with the project, leaving us
> with the group listed in the resolution. I do not know why these people
> decided not to continue their participation, but I can assure you that the
> remaining members are fully committed to continuing on with the project and
> we hope to recruit future members. Graduating will be a big accomplishment
> for this project and may give this project more visibility and growth.
> Also, on another note, I did not give the vote a deadline. If this list
> wishes to continue a vote, it will be open for 72 hours from my original
> email. I will close the vote Nov 8th at noon EST.
> thanks,Reza
>

I for sure understand and share the concern. One of the reasons for a
project to show it can grow a community.

The project seems to have a fine technical base, but the lack of community
growth is a major concern for me. Would it not be wise to postpone the
graduation, and get the community to grow first ?

Why do you think graduating will give growth or even more visibility ?

rgds
jan i.


>       From: John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
>  To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>; Reza <
> reza.nagh...@yahoo.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:37 PM
>  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache DeviceMap from the incubator
>
> Hi,
>
> Should we perhaps discuss it first?
>
> Seems a little weird to have such a small team to begin with.  How have you
> grown?
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Reza <reza.nagh...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > So another graduation vote thread..! The Apache DeviceMap project would
> > like to graduate from the incubator. The project has made a lot of
> progress
> > in the past 6 months and all project members have voted positively for
> this
> > measure. We got 4 +1 votes from PMC members, 2 +1 votes from IPMC members
> > (Bertrand and Kevan), and no 0 or -1 votes [0].
> >
> >
> > This is the incubator vote thread to decide if the Apache DeviceMap
> > project graduates from the incubator. The resolution is at the bottom of
> > this email and attached.
> >
> >
> > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache DeviceMap from the Incubator.
> >
> > [ ] +0 Don't care.
> >
> > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache DeviceMap from the Incubator because ...
> >
> >
> > [0]
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-devicemap-dev/201411.mbox/%3C394358326.437830.1415058677229.JavaMail.yahoo%40jws106134.mail.bf1.yahoo.com%3E
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
> > Establish the Apache DeviceMap Project
> >
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a
> > Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related
> > to the maintenance and expansion of a data repository related to devices,
> > their operating systems and web browsers, and an API for classifying said
> > features.
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC),
> > to be known as the "Apache DeviceMap Project", be and hereby is
> established
> > pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache DeviceMap Project be and hereby is responsible
> > for the maintenance and expansion of a data repository related to
> devices,
> > their operating systems and web browsers, and an API for classifying said
> > features; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache DeviceMap" be and
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction
> > of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache DeviceMap Project,
> and
> > to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> > scope of responsibility of the Apache DeviceMap Project; and be it
> further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache DeviceMapProject:
> >
> >
> >    * Reza Naghibi                    <re...@apache.org>
> >
> >    * Werner Keil                      <wk...@apache.org>
> >
> >    * Eberhard Speer Jr.              <e...@apache.org>
> >
> >    * Radu Cotescu                    <r...@apache.org>
> >
> >    * Bertrand Delacretaz              <bdelacre...@apache.org>
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Reza Naghibi be appointed to
> > the office of Vice President, Apache DeviceMap, to serve in accordance
> with
> > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache DeviceMap PMC be and hereby is tasked
> > with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
> development
> > and increased participation in the Apache DeviceMap Project; and be it
> > further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache DeviceMap Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator DeviceMap
> > podling; and be it further
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > DeviceMap podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
> > hereafter discharged.
> >
> >
> >
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