Hi,
2014-06-19 8:14 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org>: > Hi! > > based on a recent thread inspired by observing > some of the podlings, I'd like to kick start a discussion > around making an amendment to our Incubator > policy: > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html > > It feels like we're missing one important part to > the whole process -- a fair criteria for addressing > podlings that are unlikely to make it to the TLP. > I think it is a good idea to add such criteria. > > Ultimately, the incubator is the place where we teach > the projects to do two things: > * effectively manage releases > * effectively manage the community > > To this end, I'd like to prose a very simplistic criteria > for a potential retirement from the incubator: unless both > of of the following applies project get put to a retirement > IPMC vote: > * there has been a release in the past 12 months > * there has been a bona-fine change to a community > structure in the past 12 months > > Do share your thoughts. I intend to put an amendment for > a vote next week. > IMHO the list created by Christian makes more sense. Looking at the podling I'm coming from (Celix), we didn't make a release in the first year. Most important reason being that not much source was written when we entered. In fact, this is something I see coming up often regarding discussions about graduation and time in the incubator. I somehow have the feeling that most people expect new podlings to enter the incubator with a (fairly) complete source code, making it possible to get through the incubator in one year. And looking at the most podlings, this is probably true, but can't be said for all. Don't get me wrong, I understand the incubator isn't that much about source code and completeness, but to be able to grow a community and attract users, a working codebase is needed. This is something we struggled with in the first year. Nonetheless we had discussions on the list, we had commits and we had talks at conferences. So making a release and a community change as the retirement criteria would IMO be too harsh for Celix when we started. In the end I think it al depends on the podling, committers and the mentors. Some form of measurement and criteria is good to have, but it has to be broad enough, and leave enough space for a podling to determine their own fate. > > Thanks, > Roman. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis
