On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> first of all, let me start with, once again, expressing > tremendous gratitude to our report managers: John > and Marvin. Solid (and at times not quite appreciated) > work! Please add Joe Brockmeier to that list. Thanks for joining us, Joe! > One thing that I noticed in the report is that the detailed > metrics around releases are missing. Do folks think > there's a value in having them? I started compiling those stats last year in order to make the case for release reform. It wasn't easy, but we got reform done last November/December. So from my standpoint, the metrics have served their purpose. Now, when the IPMC fails to supply timely release votes (as it inevitably will because the underlying problem is structural), I think what we should do is shunt podlings towards the alternative voting process much sooner than we have been. > Collecting these metrics is probably the most time consuming > part of the report preparation. I could see if that would be > enough of a reason to drop them. Unless, of course, > somebody feels strong the other way around (and hopefully > is willing to suggest ways of automating the task). I have no objection to including the stats if someone feels strongly enough to compile them, but I think we should ensure we're channeling enough energy into educating podlings being underserved by the IPMC that there is a way for them to take control of their destiny. PS: Roman, if Joe doesn't get around to adding a blurb about ODF Toolkit's release using the alternate process before you submit the report to the Board, please add one yourself. (See <http://s.apache.org/q7>.) Marvin Humphrey --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
