On 10 January 2014 09:54, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Hi Steve, > > can I help during the week end ? > > Regards > JB I'm just running the post-rename tests now; functional test runner came first... -steve > > > On 01/10/2014 10:31 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: > >> I'm going to do the rename over the w/end, I just need to get a functional >> tests branch in, because merge-over-renames is one of those things you >> don't want to have to do. >> >> >> On 9 January 2014 17:29, Alejandro Abdelnur <t...@cloudera.com> wrote: >> >> argh, gmail trying to be extra smart collapsed his comment on that and i >>> missed. sorry >>> >>> thx >>> >>> Alejandro >>> (phone typing) >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:23, larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Alejandro - >>>> >>>> I believe that Steve has already acknowledged that a package rename is >>>> required and that the project is likely not appropriate for Hadoop >>>> >>> proper. >>> >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> --larry >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur <t...@cloudera.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I may have not been clear enough, I was referring to using >>>>> 'org.apache.hadoop' as package prefix for a project other than hadoop. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Benson Margulies < >>>>> bimargul...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you can work out a plan to do this directly in Hadoop, there's no >>>>>> need for the incubator. You just build and and contribute it in >>>>>> cahoots with them, and earn commit over there as you go. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur < >>>>>> t...@cloudera.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mmmh, if i recall correctly this has come up in the past with other >>>>>>> >>>>>> projects and it was decided against it. Could you please check with >>>>>> the >>>>>> hadoop folks about it? >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 1:19 AM, Steve Loughran <ste...@hortonworks.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> no its wrong, it should all be under org.apache.hoya. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had the hadoop prefix so that I could perhaps put it straight into >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> hadoop code as another tools module -no need for incubation. But as >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> actual providers and all tests are related to the deployment of hbase >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>>> accumulo, it really comes downstream of those. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> so a rename is needed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but yes, ASF headers everywhere >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 January 2014 22:48, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I like how the initial code already put under " >>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hoya" with correct ASF header =) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Henry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Steve Loughran < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ste...@hortonworks.com >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm starting to put together the incubation proposal for Hoya: a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> tool >>>>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>>> dynamically deploy applications such as HBase or Accumulo on YARN >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HoyaProposal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It does already work to the extent that it can bring up either >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> application, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> run different clusters of different versions, and remember where >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> containers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> were allocated so that on application restart it can ask for them >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> back. >>>>>> >>>>>>> That increases data locality and makes a big difference with HBase. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It also needs a lot more work -YARN-896 is adding YARN features >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that >>> >>>> help, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but there's lots of fun to be had in Hoya including >>>>>>>>>> -leading edge work in failure handling, modelling cluster >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> unreliability >>>>>> >>>>>>> and reacting to it. Can we move beyond simple blacklisting to >>>>>>>>>> "greylisting", accepting unreliable boxes if we have no >>>>>>>>>> altenatives >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then there's adding more providers, to support different >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> application >>> >>>> installations -I'm starting to write a functional test framework >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> which >>>>> >>>>>> need >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> provider-specific workload generations >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Other features: AM should have a web ui that redirects to the live >>>>>>>>>> endpoints to all the app-specific UIs (e.g. HBase Master GUI), as >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> well as >>>>>> >>>>>>> displaying cluster state itself, for people and for management >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> tools.... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To summarise: lots of fun to be had >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -steve >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >>>>>>>>>> NOTICE: This message is intended for the use of the individual or >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> entity >>>>>> >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> which it is addressed and may contain information that is >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> confidential, >>>>>> >>>>>>> privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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