Hi Marvin
Am 09.11.13 07:15, schrieb Marvin Humphrey:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013, at 08:10 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
IMO the IPMC cannot delegate legal oversight to a sub-committee (for
example) unless that sub-committee consisted of members of the IPMC. The
reason for this is hat only members of the IPMC are recognized by the board
and thus only IPMC members have binding votes.
That is what the board has done to date. That is not the only
possibility in terms of what the board *could* do, which is much more
where my question was leading.
The issue was brought before the Board earlier this week and they have
explicitly bounced it back to us. Their rationale is that the problem lies
within the scope of project governance that the Board has delegated to the
Incubator PMC. The Board has plenty going on these days; I can understand
that they don't want to get involved in debates over e.g. the nitty gritty
details of pTLP design.
So, it's our responsibility to design a solution using only the resources
currently available to us. If we exercise a little creativity and
flexibility, I don't think we will find ourselves unduly constrained.
My issue is that granting PMC membership is too big a step for many
podling members. Going from being newbie podling member, to a part of a
team responsible for 50+ incubator projects is, with the freedom to
mentor other podlings, is too big a step for most podling members, and
will remain scary even if you attempt to restrict 'powers' through
social convention.
That sounds unreasonably pessimistic. Historically, when contributors from
active podlings have been nominated, vetted and successfully voted onto the
IPMC, things have worked out very well:
Brian Duxbury (Thrift)
Richard Hirsch (ESME)
Marvin Humphrey (Lucy)
Karl Wright (ManifoldCF)
Dave Fisher (OpenOffice)
Andrei Savu (Provisionr)
I'm proud to be part of that group. I would like to see it grow -- in my
view, the Incubator has erred by not recruiting aggressively enough!
Probabily yes, but a step between IPMC and nothing would lower the
barrier. Well, I'm shepherd now, reading the lists etc. But I beleve the
incubator miss samething to show the ability to be a mentor. Maybe
something like a Assistent mentor. The assistent Mentor can be assinged
to a podling but have for exemple not the right to subscribe the private
lists. That would probabily also encourage more.
Greetings Raphael
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