If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome back 
to the fold, should they so desire.


Regards,
Alan

On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective.
>> 
>> Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but
>> believe later on we can build it back up.
>> Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think it's
>> best to archive the code/move it to github/move it to bitbucket and allow
>> others who want to work on it to just grab it and go.
> 
> The difference is one goes to github and one does not?
> 
> After this interpretation I would expect dormant projects to retire.
> Retired projects
> can be revived too. It does not matter if there was something on GitHub or 
> not.
> 
> Not enough for me to maintain two terms.
> 
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents..
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Christian Grobmeier 
>> <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I like the word dormant as well.  Should we rename them all to
>>> dormant?
>>> 
>>> +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. Using
>>>>> the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible for
>>>>> the podlings to go, well, dormant.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Upayavira
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
>>>>>> They kinda sound the same.  Why didn't podlings want to retire?  Does
>>>>>> anyone know?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from Henri
>>>>>>> Yandell which I repost here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be retired.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Basically this is a larger version of "don't be afraid to delete a
>>>>>>> line of code; it's in version control".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hen"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alan Cabrera <a...@toolazydogs.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear to me what the
>>> difference is.  I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>> 
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