As part of Incubation a suitable name search will be done to verify the name's appropriate. I imagine Ivory would fail this test based on the prior project, so this Ivory would need to find a new name. Alternatively, before the vote, the Ivory folks can find another name. This has happened before (Howl -> HCatalog), so it's not a huge reason to be concerned.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: > It would be awfully nice of you not to stomp on another hadoop ecosystem > project's google-fu when your project becomes very successful and admired > across the hadoopverse :) > > Ivory isn't a fly-by-night project someone threw up on github -- it's > generated over a dozen peer-reviewed papers, and has many watchers and dev > forks. > > I don't have a vote here, but I'd say that yes, this will lead to confusion > when people look for hadoop ivory. > > D > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Seetharam Venkatesh < > venkat...@innerzeal.com> wrote: > > > Hi Henry, > > > > Is there a concern with the current name? The closest is a tool for > > Information Retrieval. Not sure if there is an overlap. We will also > bring > > this up with the champion and mentors to see if this needs to be vet with > > trademarks folks as well. > > > > Your suggestions are welcome. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > HI Srikanth, > > > > > > So does the Ivory name stay or once the podling near graduation it will > > try > > > to find another name? > > > > > > - Henry > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Srikanth Sundarrajan < > > > srikanth.sundarra...@inmobi.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Made few edits to the proposal ( > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IvoryProposal) as per the feedback > > > > received so far. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Srikanth Sundarrajan > > > > > > > > = Ivory Proposal = > > > > > > > > == Abstract == > > > > Ivory is a data processing and management solution for Hadoop > designed > > > > for data motion, coordination of data pipelines, lifecycle > management, > > > > and data discovery. Ivory enables end consumers to quickly onboard > > > > their data and its associated processing and management tasks on > > > > Hadoop clusters. > > > > > > > > == Proposal == > > > > Ivory will enable easy data management via declarative mechanism for > > > > Hadoop. Users of Ivory platform simply define infrastructure > > > > endpoints, data sets and processing rules declaratively. These > > > > declarative configurations are expressed in such a way that the > > > > dependencies between these configured entities are explicitly > > > > described. This information about inter-dependencies between various > > > > entities allows Ivory to orchestrate and manage various data > > > > management functions. > > > > > > > > The key use cases that Ivory addresses are: > > > > * Data Motion > > > > * Process orchestration and scheduling > > > > * Policy-based Lifecycle Management > > > > * Data Discovery > > > > * Operability/Usability > > > > > > > > With these features it is possible for users to onboard their data > > > > sets with a comprehensive and holistic understanding of how, when and > > > > where their data is managed across its lifecycle. Complex functions > > > > such as retrying failures, identifying possible SLA breaches or > > > > automated handling of input data changes are now simple directives. > > > > All the administrative functions and user level functions are > > > > available via RESTful APIs. CLI is simply a wrapper over the RESTful > > > > APIs. > > > > > > > > == Background == > > > > Hadoop and its ecosystem of products have made storing and processing > > > > massive amounts of data commonplace. This has enabled numerous > > > > organizations to gain valuable insights that they never could have > > > > achieved in the past. While it is easy to leverage Hadoop for > > > > crunching large volumes of data, organizing data, managing life cycle > > > > of data and processing data is fairly involved. This is solved > > > > adequately well in a classic data platform involving data warehouses > > > > and standard ETL (extract-transform-load) tools, but remains largely > > > > unsolved today. In addition to data processing complexities, Hadoop > > > > presents new sets of challenges and opportunities relating to > > > > management of data. > > > > > > > > Data Management on Hadoop encompasses data motion, process > > > > orchestration, lifecycle management, data discovery, etc. among other > > > > concerns that are beyond ETL. Ivory is a new data processing and > > > > management platform for Hadoop that solves this problem and creates > > > > additional opportunities by building on existing components within > the > > > > Hadoop ecosystem (ex. Apache Oozie, Apache Hadoop DistCp etc.) > without > > > > reinventing the wheel. Ivory has been in production at InMobi, going > > > > on its second year and has been managing hundreds of feeds and > > > > processes. > > > > > > > > Ivory is being developed by engineers employed with InMobi and > > > > Hortonworks. This platform addition will increase the adoption of > > > > Apache Hadoop by driving data management tractable for end users. We > > > > are therefore proposing to make Ivory an Apache open source project. > > > > > > > > == Rationale == > > > > The Ivory project aims to improve the usability of Apache Hadoop. As > a > > > > result Apache Hadoop will grow its community of users by increasing > > > > the places Hadoop can be utilized and the use cases it will solve. By > > > > developing Ivory in Apache we hope to gather a diverse community of > > > > contributors, helping to ensure that Ivory is deployable for a broad > > > > range of scenarios. Members of the Hadoop development community will > > > > be able to influence Ivory’s roadmap, and contribute to it. We > believe > > > > having Ivory as part of the Apache Hadoop ecosystem will be a great > > > > benefit to all of Hadoop's users. > > > > > > > > == Current Status == > > > > Ivory is widely deployed in production within InMobi and moving on to > > > > its second year. A version with a valuable set of features is > > > > developed by the list of initial committers and is hosted on github. > > > > > > > > === Meritocracy === > > > > Our intent with this incubator proposal is to start building a > diverse > > > > developer community around Ivory following the Apache meritocracy > > > > model. We have wanted to make the project open source and encourage > > > > contributors from multiple organizations from the start. We plan to > > > > provide plenty of support to new developers and to quickly recruit > > > > those who make solid contributions to committer status. > > > > > > > > === Community === > > > > We are happy to report that the initial team already represents > > > > multiple organizations. We hope to extend the user and developer base > > > > further in the future and build a solid open source community around > > > > Ivory. > > > > > > > > === Core Developers === > > > > Ivory is currently being developed by three engineers from InMobi – > > > > Srikanth Sunderrajan, Shwetha G S, and Shaik Idris, two Hortonworks > > > > employees – Sanjay Radia and Venkatesh Seetharam. In addition, Rohini > > > > Palaniswamy and Thiruvel Thirumoolan, were also involved in the > > > > initial design discussions. Srikanth, Shwetha and Shaik are the > > > > original developers. All the engineers have built two generations of > > > > Data Management on Hadoop, having deep expertise in Hadoop and are > > > > quite familiar with the Hadoop Ecosystem. Samarth Gupta & Rishu > > > > Mehrothra, both from InMobi have build the QA automation for Ivory. > > > > > > > > === Alignment === > > > > The ASF is a natural host for Ivory given that it is already the home > > > > of Hadoop, Pig, Knox, HCatalog, and other emerging “big data” > software > > > > projects. Ivory has been designed to solve the data management > > > > challenges and opportunities of the Hadoop ecosystem family of > > > > products. Ivory fills the gap that Hadoop ecosystem has been lacking > > > > in the areas of data processing and data lifecycle management. > > > > > > > > == Known Risks == > > > > > > > > === Orphaned products & Reliance on Salaried Developers === > > > > The core developers plan to work full time on the project. There is > > > > very little risk of Ivory getting orphaned. Ivory is in use by > > > > companies we work for so the companies have an interest in its > > > > continued vitality. > > > > > > > > === Inexperience with Open Source === > > > > All of the core developers are active users and followers of open > > > > source. Srikanth Sundarrajan has been contributing patches to Apache > > > > Hadoop and Apache Oozie, Shwetha GS has been contributing patches to > > > > Apache Oozie. Seetharam Venkatesh is a committer on Apache Knox. > > > > Sharad Agarwal, Amareshwari SR (also a Apache Hive PMC member) and > > > > Sanjay Radia are PMC members on Apache Hadoop. > > > > > > > > === Homogeneous Developers === > > > > The current core developers are from diverse set of organizations > such > > > > as InMobi and Hortonworks. We expect to quickly establish a developer > > > > community that includes contributors from several corporations post > > > > incubation. > > > > > > > > === Reliance on Salaried Developers === > > > > Currently, most developers are paid to do work on Ivory but few are > > > > contributing in their spare time. However, once the project has a > > > > community built around it post incubation, we expect to get > committers > > > > and developers from outside the current core developers. > > > > > > > > === Relationships with Other Apache Products === > > > > Ivory is going to be used by the users of Hadoop and the Hadoop > > > > ecosystem in general. > > > > > > > > === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === > > > > While we respect the reputation of the Apache brand and have no > doubts > > > > that it will attract contributors and users, our interest is > primarily > > > > to give Ivory a solid home as an open source project following an > > > > established development model. We have also given reasons in the > > > > Rationale and Alignment sections. > > > > > > > > == Documentation ==http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IvoryProposal > > > > > > > > == Initial Source == > > > > The source is currently in github repository at: > > > > https://github.com/sriksun/Ivory > > > > > > > > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan == > > > > The complete Ivory code is under Apache Software License 2. > > > > > > > > == External Dependencies == > > > > The dependencies all have Apache compatible licenses. These include > > > > BSD, MIT licensed dependencies. > > > > > > > > == Cryptography == > > > > None > > > > > > > > == Required Resources == > > > > > > > > === Mailing lists === > > > > > > > > * ivory-dev AT incubator DOT apache DOT org > > > > * ivory-commits AT incubator DOT apache DOT org > > > > * ivory-user AT incubator apache DOT org > > > > * ivory-private AT incubator DOT apache DOT org > > > > > > > > === Subversion Directory === > > > > Git is the preferred source control system: git:// > git.apache.org/ivory > > > > > > > > === Issue Tracking === > > > > JIRA IVORY > > > > > > > > == Initial Committers == > > > > * Srikanth Sundarrajan (Srikanth.Sundarrajan AT inmobi DOT com) > > > > * Shwetha GS (shwetha.gs AT inmobi DOT com) > > > > * Shaik Idris (shaik.idris AT inmobi DOT com) > > > > * Venkatesh Seetharam (Venkatesh AT apache DOT org) > > > > * Sanjay Radia (sanjay AT apache DOT org) > > > > * Sharad Agarwal (sharad AT apache DOT org) > > > > * Amareshwari SR (amareshwari AT apache DOT org) > > > > * Samarth Gupta (samarth.gupta AT inmobi DOT com) > > > > * Rishu Mehrothra (rishu.mehrothra AT inmobi DOT com) > > > > > > > > == Affiliations == > > > > * Srikanth Sundarrajan (InMobi) > > > > * Shwetha GS (InMobi) > > > > * Shaik Idris (InMobi) > > > > * Venkatesh Seetharam (Hortonworks Inc.) > > > > * Sanjay Radia (Hortonworks Inc.) > > > > * Sharad Agarwal (InMobi) > > > > * Amareshwari SR (InMobi) > > > > * Samarth Gupta (InMobi) > > > > * Rishu Mehrothra (InMobi) > > > > > > > > == Sponsors == > > > > > > > > === Champion === > > > > * Arun C Murthy (acmurthy at apache dot org) > > > > > > > > === Nominated Mentors === > > > > * Alan Gates (gates AT apache DOT org) > > > > * Chris Douglas (cdouglas AT apache DOT org) > > > > * Devaraj Das (ddas AT apache DOT org) > > > > * Owen O’Malley (omalley AT apache DOT org) > > > > > > > > === Sponsoring Entity === > > > > Incubator PMC > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > The information contained in this communication is intended solely > for > > > the > > > > use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others > > > > authorized to receive it. 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