On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: > A recent vote thread on the private list led Christian Grobmeier to > wonder why a podling was simultaneously proposing someone for PPMC and > committer status. > > A few bits of background: > > 1. TLP's vary in their behavior in this regard. Some maintain a > committer!=PMC distinction, and some do not.
I follow this: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles The projects I am involved do distinct. not sure on the majority. I take the link as recommendation though > 2. Historically, podlings have *not* maintained this distinction, but > have waited for graduation to sort out the initial PMC members. Why do they behave differently than later as TLD? > 3. Legally/organizationally, since PPMC members don't have binding > votes, there's not much practical effect of making a distinction. At > the end of the day, only Incubator PMC members have binding votes. The podling is here to learn about how TLDs work. I consider it practice. > 4. Christian pointed out that the Open Office podling found the > process of sorting out the PMC/committer distinction to be painful. > > With all respect, I don't see the OO podling as typical. It's sheer > size put it in a different category, and I for one do not feel > inclined to tell podlings to start keeping PPMC and committer distinct > on the basis of that history. I have not said we must make it a rule. Actually I am thinking every podling can do it as they want to have it; they should just know about the link i sent above. When podling members know about the differences and still want to keep it that way, its fine. But they need to know. I am not here to make up rules. For my taste there are already too many. Sending links like above and telling from my experiences is what I consider "mentorship" too. After all, I am listening to many oldtimers here when they speak from their experiences. Cheers Christian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org