On Nov 21, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Franklin, Matthew B. > <mfrank...@mitre.org> wrote: >> On 11/21/12 7:26 AM, "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: >> ... >>> So, permit me to ask another, related, question. It seems to me that >>> the IPMC is concerned with the fact that a project is ready to leave, >>> but not so much which where it is going. A proposal to form a new TLP >>> is, I think, a straightforward question to the board, and the IPMC's >>> action is to make a recommendation to the board. >>> >>> A proposal to be integrated into an existing project is, I think, >>> within the authority of the existing product's PMC. If Project A >>> wishes to invite the members of Podling B to join and integrate their >>> code, then this looks to me like it could just happen without any >>> approval in advance from the board or even the IPMC. Voting in >>> committers is a PMC task, voting in PMC members is a PMC task with >>> board lazy approval, and copying (ip-cleared) code from one place in >>> ASF source control to another is a PMC task. >>> >>> I think that IPMC graduation votes in this case are a nice thing, but >>> it seems by this logic that they are not necessary. >>> >>> Does this make sense? >> >> I think your statement makes sense, but I see the votes as a way for IPMC >> members to assert that they believe all due diligence in IP clearance has >> been performed and that a sanity check has been done as to whether or not >> the podling is to be fully integrated into the PMC of the target project. >> From this perspective the Incubator serves to provide a convenience to the >> target PMC in regards to releasability of code they are assuming and as a >> foundation preventative measure for ensuring we don't end up with massive, >> disconnected umbrellas comprised of former incubator podlings. > > I'm with Matt: the vote is still needed to state "this community/code > can be moved into the ASF".
Since incubation is more about learning the apache way in practice, I also think IPMC will be a better position to gauge it then the target PMC, so community readiness vote by IPMC might be good to continue irrespective of the podling ends up being a TLP or a sub-project. Cheers, Suresh --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
