On 07/08/2012 21:14, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:25 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Grant Ingersoll; Isabel Drost
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drill for the Apache Incubator

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Initial Source
==============
There is no initial source code. All source code will be developed within
the Apache Incubator.

Coming in without any source code is going to pose a challenge to this
podling.

    http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#incubator

    The incubator filters projects on the basis of the likeliness of
them becoming
    successful meritocratic communities. The basic requirements for incubation
    are:

        * a working codebase -- over the years and after several failures, the
          foundation came to understand that without an initial working
          codebase, it is generally hard to bootstrap a community. This is
          because merit is not well recognized by developers without a working
          codebase. Also, the friction that is developed during the initial
          design stage is likely to fragment the community.

It seems like there could be flexibility in this requirement, based on a few 
factors.  In this case, a design discussion has been ongoing; but I would also 
think that any community coming in with enough people who know the Apache way 
may also not need as much of a solid starting point code wise.

+1. Given the credentials and the experience of proposed committers and mentors, and the fact that the initial design is already done, I don't think this is a serious risk. And it's an exciting proposal with a potentially big impact.

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Andrzej Bialecki
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