On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> Ralph, I'm inclined to hair up the chart to distinguish 'podlings' >> from 'probationary projects'. Otherwise, fine. I'll do that. > > I see from your latest updates that you still have the podlings requiring > IPMC approval for releases and new members. I suppose that works if are only > in the incubator a few months but I can easily imagine a project performing a > few releases and still preferring to stay in the incubator while they build > community. I'd really prefer to delegate these to the podlings, subject to > approval from their mentors and only involve the IPMC if they can't get the > required mentor approval. IOW, the vote threads would take place on the > podling lists and only the results would be published to the IPMC and the > IPMC would use a process similar to the board's for approval (I believe the > new process is a 72 hr wait with an implied ack upon receipt).
So, here's the difference I'm splitting. For what I hope can be a really brief period of time, the podling is stuck with the IPMC just as podlings are currently stuck with the IPMC. Thereafter, just as in Chris' proposal, off they go to make their own mistakes. The advantage of this, as I see it, is to avoid inventing any new governance structure for the Foundation. Initially, in the IPMC, subsequently, on their own. However, if you and others would rather push this in a direction more like: 'podlings are born self-governing under the supervision of the IPMC, and move to self-governance under the supervision of the board' (I'm thinking a bit of Roy's email) I have no objection at all, feel free to edit it that way. > > What about the current requirement that mentors be members of the IPMC? > Personally, I don't see the value of that, especially for ASF members. The > IPMC should be made up of people who care about the incubator as a whole, not > just specific podlings. I agree. In either of the alternatives above, there's no reason to load up the IPMC. > > Ralph > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
