On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote: > On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: ... >>>> The proposal says "Existing Flex-related conferences, podcasts and >>>> websites should be allowed to continue using “Flex” as part of their >>>> name - Apache Flex will have to create guidelines for that." ...
FWIW, it's me who wrote that phrase in the proposal, after some Flex community members pointed out that there's a number of entities currently using "Flex" as part of their website, conference or other names. If the podling wants to keep the Flex name (which is the current plan), it seems very unfair to me to ask bona fide Flex community members to rename their stuff just because Flex decided to move. >> The proposal does say the Flex trademark is being donated. The above >> is an indication that there are groups already using that mark and >> they should be allowed to continue to do so. My concern is that there >> may be a for profit using this trademark that expects to continue to >> use it. That, I imagine, would be unacceptable. even not-for-profits >> might present complications.... As far as the ASF trademarks group is concerned, my understanding is that trademarks management is delegated to the project's PMC, so (IMO) Flex might very well decide to operate slightly differently than other projects, due to its history. As long as there's no confusion as to which Flex is which, and as long as there's no favoritism in how people are allowed to use the Flex name, I think this might work. Now, we're talking about a podling which will have time to sort this out before graduation. This might lead to a nice model that works for the mutual benefit of Flex community members, or the conclusion might be that the podling needs to change its name to Apache Rigid before graduating (or some nicer name ;-) In summary, IMO the idea here is to *try* to keep the Flex name, see how that works, and change strategy if that doesn't. I'll reply separately to Craig's list of existing websites. -Bertrand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org