On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: > On 21 November 2011 08:42, Robert Burrell Donkin > <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Some time back we moved to having 3 mentors, which had the positive of more >>> hands and enough binding votes, but the downside of no single person "on >>> the hook" for a podling's reporting and progress towards graduation. >>> >>> Should we appoint one of the mentors at the start to be the "chair" of the >>> PPMC, in the same way as a full project? I would see them as responsible >>> for ensuring the podling is reporting, and that all of the mentors are >>> engaged and signing off the reports. >>> >>> As the podling matures, this role could be transitioned to the person who >>> will be nominated as the chair of the project after it graduates, if they >>> are ready for that. >>> >>> What do others think? >> >> I think appointing a chair in the early stages is likely to work >> against building a community of peers. > > I agree, especially if that "chair" is also a mentor. Mentors are not > supposed to *do* only to *guide*. > > On the other hand, I do think the original point of none of the three > mentors being responsible is a problem. > >> I think that establishing a chair once community has self-organised >> would be a good idea. > > Not before graduation. I have seen, in a number of podlings, that the > obvious choice of a chair half way through graduation (for example) is > often not the same choice at the end of graduation. >
As an alternative then what about making the poddling champion a more active role? Presently most champions are usually just a name on the initial proposal who do little during incubation, we could change that and for example require the champion to also contribute a line or two to the poddling report about how its going and what they'd like to see happening to progress graduation. ...ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
