+1 (non binding) On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Francis De Brabandere <franci...@gmail.com>wrote:
> +1 (non-binding) > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org> > wrote: > > Opemeetings proposal has been discussed a few times here before. The > group of developers behind it worked hard (and succeeded) to address all > potential obstacles to the Incubator acceptance and to the following > incubation. They even went an extra mile and collected all ICLAs in > adbvance. > > > > So now I am starting the vote to accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator. > > > > The proposal is also available at: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal > > > > Please cast your votes: > > > > [ ] +1 Accept Openmeetings for incubation > > [ ] +0 Don't care > > [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason: > > > > The vote is open for 72 hours. > > > > Andrus > > > > --------------- > > Andrus Adamchik > > Apache Cayenne ORM: http://cayenne.apache.org/ > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/andrus_a > > > > > > > > ------- > > > > == OpenMeetings Project Proposal == > > > > == Abstract == > > Openmeetings is a web conferencing solution. > > > > == Proposal == > > Openmeetings provides video conferencing, instant messaging, white > board, collaborative document editing and other groupware tools using API > functions of the Red5 Streaming Server for Remoting and Streaming. > > > > == Background == > > Openmeetings was developed since 2007 by Sebastian Wagner and willing > developers. The project ships a release approximately once per quarter. It > was developed using LGPL license, and developers are currently thinking of > re-licensing it under Apache License 2.0. > > > > The project started as module by Sebastian Wagner for an ELearning > platform (Dokeos) and was then split into a separated project. That is the > reason why there is a strong relation to educational institutions that are > using OpenMeetings and there are integrations for platforms like Moodle, > ATutor, Sakai, STudIP or ILias available ( > http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/MoodlePlugins). The relation > to educational institutions also subsequently lead to some projects funded > by the EU where OpenMeetings was involved, for example by the > Swedish/Finnish Centre of Open-Source !OpenKarken (Case-Study about the EU > project at OSOR.eu: > http://www.osor.eu/studies/finland-and-sweden-collaborate-using-oss ) > > > > The integration and internationalization of the project was a primary > focus right from the start of the project. Since Version 0.5 there is a > Language-Editor (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/LanguageEditor) > to edit labels, export and import them as XML and you can use those XML > files for future installations (or contribute it to the community). There > are currently around 30 languages available. Since version 0.5.1 there is > also a SOAP API to integrate !OpenMeetings. We constantly improve this > SOAP/REST API (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/SoapMethods) > with new functionality with a strong focus on security and usability. The > auth-mechnism is quite similar to OAuth, you create some token and then > assign rights to the token. (Documentation for Single Sign On: > http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/DirectLoginSoapGeneralFlow) > > > > The project name "!OpenMeetings" and logos are inspired by Ludovic Gasc > who has been the project manager at Dokeos at the time Sebastian split > !OpenMeetings as separated project. > > > > Red5 Server provides an "Edge-Orion-Clustering" ( > http://trac.red5.org/wiki/Documentation/Tutorials/EdgeOriginClusteringConfiguration). > We hope to extend this clustering solution with support for rtmpt and > rtmps and integrate that into our application as native clustering option. > > > > == Rationale == > > Last year most major vendors started commercial web conferencing > solutions. This is an important part of software ecosystem, and there is an > urge to consolidate open source development efforts in this direction. > > > > According to several studies demand for synchronous Communication, in > opposite to asynchronous Communication like wiki's or email, will raise the > upcoming years. For example Gartner promises that 2011 the market will grow > 20% according to their "Magic Quadrant" report 2010 ( > http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?doc_cd=205941 ). > > > > Openmeetings is a unique solution in terms of patent purity and > potentially can grow into solution built on top of the fully open source > stack. That is why it is a good candidate for consolidating web > conferencing community efforts. > > > > == Initial Goals == > > Each of project committers has their own set of goals, but we all share > the following. > > > > * Move to Apache. > > * Become popular. > > > > To become popular we plan to do the following. > > > > * Improve ecosystem around the project. > > * Improve release process. > > * Improve project testing and stability. > > * Apply modular architecture/SOA for better integration with other > projects. > > > > == Current Status == > > We have agreed on applying for the Apache Foundation and preparing our > proposal for the vote. > > > > Technical status of the project is: Current stable tree is 1.8.x, Trunk > is 1.9. > > > > === Meritocracy === > > Developers community is successfully driven by consensus now. If there > are more developers on board, consensus may turn into meritocracy. > > > > === Community === > > The developer community is active. The mailing list is active with > dozens of messages every day, mostly user support topics. > > > > Currently the User Mailing list has over 1000 members, the dev-list has > around 250. > > > > === Core Developers === > > Sebastian has started the application 07/2006. Current development team > counts 21 programmers from Germany, Russia, China, India and South America. > > > > === Alignment === > > The project provides a safe ground for Apache for entering a complex > field of video streaming. It avoids complex patenting issues by using > proprietary Adobe Flash. From the other side it may grow into independent > solution because it uses OpenLaszlo RIA framework rather than a particular > proprietary vendor language, and after framework evolves can use other > frontend representations such as javascript. > > > > == Known Risks == > > === Orphaned Projects === > > Openmeetings project has developed a sufficient functionality to be a > popular solution for a small businesses. The number of site visits of the > googlecode project website increased to 50.000 in October 2011 which is a > good sign of people interest. The overall statistics for the last 4 years > shows around 4 mio pageviews (google-analytics graphic: > http://wagner-sebastian.com/_log/website.png). We believe that visitors > convert to users, and users convert to developers in some standard rate. > > > > === Inexperience With Open Source === > > Two committers have GSoC experience. One committer is an Apache > committer. The project exists since 07/2008 already as an open source > project hosted at !GoogleCode http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings > > > > === Reliance On Salaried Developers === > > Some contributors get paid from Openmeetings-based consultancy. > > > > === Relationships with Other Apache Products === > > Web application part of Openmeetings runs under Apache Tomcat. It uses > Apache Commons and Apache Velocity. Red5 server uses a lot of Apache > components, including Apache Mina. !OpenMeetings itself uses Apache Axis2 > for the SOAP / REST API. !OpenMeetings was reworked to use Apache OpenJPA > instead of Hibernate. Since revision 4000 (version 1.8) all dependencies to > Hibernate have been removed from the source. > > > > === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === > > The Apache Foundation is the home of vendor neutral and industry > standard software. By joining the Foundation we will apply Apache's Release > and Licensing Standards to our product. Doing that we will improve our > release processes, quality standards and it should give a planning > reliability to our end users. But our main motivation is that our project > is about collaboration, communication and enabling people to easily > interact with each other. We think that the "Apache Way" of community > driven software development with flat hierarchy and transparency in > decision and design will reflect best those core activities of our software. > > > > Well, or course we want our project to be alive, and useful. Several > contributors have former experience with Apache Harmony project (which > previously has been known as SourceForge ORP project). Apache brand is > really helpful compared to SourceForge brand for community building and > getting support from commercial companies. From the other side > org.apache.harmony story shows that the brand cannot help when there no > community remain. Hence we try to keep people interested, and the product > developed at the first place, thus supporting Apache brand fame with good > facts. > > > > == Initial Source == > > * http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ > > > > === External Dependencies === > > Adobe Flash (by means of !OpenLaszlo) and open source projects compliant > with current Apache policy. The UI code is compiled by using !OpenLaszlo, > not by using Adobe products. !OpenLaszlo is licenced under the CPL. > !OpenLaszlo's concept is that you write the code in a XML based approach, > it is possible to compile the output to Flash or DHTML/HTML5. So on the > long run it might be possible to replace the Flash UI with a DHTML one. But > as there is little multimedia support in HTML5 especially for Webcam and > Microphone access it is not possible yet to prevent using Flash in general. > The needed Real-Time Communication could be done using Ajax and HTTP-Push > mechanisms like Comet instead of AMF which is currently used. > > > > For Flash Streaming Red5 is used ( http://code.google.com/p/red5 ). > Red5 is currently a LGPL licensed Software based on Apache Tomcat / Apache > MINA and Spring. Red5 will change to APL very soon, they already internally > discussed that some time ago and voted on it: > > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/red5developers/apache/red5developers/QkwBygXUGM0/KK4uICz0wEsJ > > > > Dependcies to Red5 API as graphs: Java Web-Start application > (Screen-Sharing and Recording) > http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/svn-history/r4162/docs/Red5.webstart.pngJava > Web-Application ( > http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/svn-history/r4162/docs/Red5.webapp.png). > > > > === Cryptography === > > OpenMeetings can be deployed using HTTPS and RTMPS (Flash Streaming and > Remoting over SSL): > http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/RTMPSandHTTPS > > > > = Required Resources = > > Subversion Directory: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings > > > > Issue Tracking: JIRA (OPENMEETINGS) > > > > Required Mailing lists: > > > > * openmeetings-u...@incubator.apache.org > > * openmeetings-...@incubator.apache.org > > * openmeetings-comm...@incubator.apache.org > > > > Wiki, Webspace: Confluence or similar software where we can integrate > our current wiki and documentation ( > http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/MainPage?tm=6) > > > > Other Resources: > > > > Continuous integration and Nightly Builds may eventually require hardware > > > > We are currently hosted on googlecode. There was an option in googlecode > available to transfer a googlecode project to Apache. We would like to ask > the hosting staff at Googlecode if they could maybe give us advice how we > can easily get a copy of our project to import it into the new project > space at Apache. > > > > == Initial Committers == > > * Sebastian Wagner <seba.wagner at gmail dot com> > > * Oliver Becherer (smoeker) <ich at oliver-becherer dot name> > > * Rodion Volkov <volkov.rodion at gmail dot com> > > * Alexei Fedotov <aaf at apache dot org> > > * Evgeny Rovinsky <e.rovinsky at gmail dot com> > > * Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666 at gmail dot com > > > * Sascha Xander < sascha.xander at googlemail dot com > > > * Johnny Strom <johnny.strom at osp dot fi> > > * Eugen Schwert < eugen.schwert at googlemail dot com > > > > > If any other existing Apache or Openmeetings committers would like to be > grandfathered into the list then feel free to ask. > > > > = Sponsors = > > === Champion === > > * Andrus Adamchik <aadamchik at apache dot org> > > > > === Mentors === > > Volunteers, please. > > > > * Alexei Fedotov <aaf at apache dot org> > > * Jim Jagielski <jim at apache dot org> > > * Ross Gardler <rgardler at apache dot org> > > * Yegor Kozlov <yegor at apache dot org> > > > > === Sponsoring Entity === > > We would like to ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor Openmeetings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.somatik.be > Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
