Just FYI,

My heavy concern is that the boundaries between 'Apache Hama' and
'Giraph' you said, can be collapsed in near future.

 * Someone already contributed Pregel-like vertex API set on top of
Hama v0.2[1].
 * The Hama job will be run on both Hama own cluster and Hadoop nextGen.

Then, BSP-based computing VS. BSP-based *only* graph computing, that's it.

Regarding this proposal, I'm +0.

Thanks,
Ed

1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HAMA-409

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Avery Ching <ach...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose Giraph as an Apache Incubator project.  Giraph is a 
> large-scale graph processing infrastructure (inspired by Pregel) that runs 
> entirely on Hadoop.  Giraph applications and MapReduce jobs coexist on shared 
> Hadoop instances and Giraph applications can be part of Oozie workflows as a 
> normal MapReduce job.
>
> Here is a link to the proposal in our GitHub wiki:
>
> https://github.com/aching/Giraph/wiki/Apache-Incubator-Proposal
>
> The proposal is also inlined below:
>
> Thanks!
>
> Avery
>
>
>
> = Giraph : Large-scale graph processing on Hadoop =
>
> == Abstract ==
>
> Giraph is a large-scale, fault-tolerant, Bulk Synchronous Parallel 
> (BSP)-based graph processing framework.
>
> == Proposal ==
>
> Graph processing platforms to run large-scale algorithms (such as page rank, 
> shared connections, personalization-based popularity, etc.) have become quite 
> popular.  Some recent examples include Pregel and HaLoop.  For 
> general-purpose big data computation, the MapReduce computation model is 
> widely adopted and the most deployed MapReduce infrastructure is Apache 
> Hadoop.  We have implemented a graph-processing framework that is launched as 
> a typical Hadoop MapReduce job to leverage existing Hadoop infrastructure, 
> such as Amazon’s EC2.  Giraph builds upon the graph-oriented nature of Pregel 
> but additionally adds fault-tolerance to the coordinator process with the use 
> of ZooKeeper as its centralized coordination service.  Additionally, Giraph 
> will include a library of generic graph algorithms.
>
> == Background ==
>
> Giraph was initially began development as a side project at Yahoo! at the end 
> of 2010.  It was made functional in a month and then started adding various 
> features.  Development has been focused on internal customers needs until 
> this point.
>
> == Rationale ==
>
> Web and online social graphs have been rapidly growing in size and scale 
> during the past decade.  In 2008, Google estimated that the number of web 
> pages reached over a trillion.  Online social networking and email sites, 
> including Yahoo!, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter, have 
> hundreds of millions of users and are expected to grow much more in the 
> future.  Processing these graphs plays a big role in relevant and 
> personalized information for users, such as results from a search engine or 
> news in an online social networking site.
>
> == Initial Goals ==
>
> At this point, most of the functionality has been implemented and we are 
> looking to get more adoption and contributions from users outside Yahoo!.   
> We want to ensure that performance scales and that the code is robust and 
> fault tolerant.
>
> == Current Status ==
>
> === Meritocracy ===
>
> Giraph was initially developed by Avery Ching and Christian Kunz beginning in 
> December 2010 at Yahoo!.  There are other developers using Giraph at Yahoo! 
> that are making suggestions and adding code.  We are reaching out to other 
> folks at social networking companies for additional usage and development.
>
> === Community ===
>
> Several groups who are interested in either joining our project or using our 
> code have contacted us.  We certainly believe that there is a lot of interest 
> and are actively looking to improve and expand the community.
>
> === Core Developers ===
>
> Avery Ching: Wrote a majority of the code
> Christian Kunz: Wrote most of the communication code and security integration 
> with Hadoop
>
> === Alignment ===
>
> Giraph uses several Apache projects as its underlying infrastructure (Hadoop 
> and ZooKeeper).   It also builds on Apache Maven.
>
> == Known Risks ==
>
> === Orphaned products ===
>
> There are many social networking companies that would be interested in using 
> this graph-processing framework and we have already received interest from 
> some of them.  Yahoo! is already using this code in production and will 
> certainly continue to use it in the future as well.
>
> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
>
> While the initial developers have limited experience on contributing to 
> open-source projects, Yahoo! as a company has a strong commitment to 
> open-source and we have several advisors that we can ask for help.
>
> === Homogenous Developers ===
>
> At this time, the project is relatively young and the developers work at only 
> two companies (Yahoo! and Jybe).  However, given the interest we have seen in 
> the project, we expect the diversity to improve in the near future.
>
> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
>
> Currently Giraph is being developed by a combination of salaried and 
> volunteer time.  We expect that other corporations will take an interest in 
> this project and likely contribute with salaried developers.  Some 
> individuals will likely spend volunteer time on it as well.  It is still 
> early in their project and we are hoping for a lot of growth.
>
> === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
>
> Giraph depends on many Apache projects: Hadoop, ZooKeeper, Log4j, Commons, 
> etc.  It is built using Apache Maven.
>
> Giraph has some overlapping functionality with Apache Hama.  However, there 
> are some significant differences.  Giraph focuses on graph-based bulk 
> synchronous parallel (BSP) computing, while Apache Hama is more for general 
> purposed BSP computing.  Giraph runs on the Hadoop infrastructure, while 
> Apache Hama uses its own computing framework.
>
> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
>
> The Apache brand is likely to help us find contributors, however, our 
> interests in Apache are primarily because the other projects that we depend 
> on are also Apache projects and it makes sense that all this software be 
> available from the same place.
>
> === Documentation ===
>
> Currently we have little documentation, but several examples.  We are working 
> on improving this situation.
>
> === Initial Source ===
>
> The initial source of the code is from Yahoo! and began development in 
> December 2010.  It is already available on GitHub at 
> https://github.com/aching/Giraph.
>
> === Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ===
>
> We intend the entire code base to be licensed under the Apache License, 
> Version 2.0.
>
> === External Dependencies ===
>
> The required dependencies are all Apache compatible licenses.  The following 
> components with non-Apache licenses are enumerated:
> * JSON – Public Domain
>
> === Cryptography ===
>
> Giraph depends on secure Hadoop that can optionally use Kerberos.
>
> == Required Resources ==
>
> === Mailing lists ===
>
> * giraph-private (with moderated subscriptions)
> * giraph-dev
> * giraph-commits
> * giraph-users
>
> === Subversion Directory ===
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/giraph
>
> === Issue Tracking ===
>
> JIRA Giraph (GIRAPH)
>
> === Other Resources ===
>
> Giraph has integration tests that can be run with the LocalJobRunner.  These 
> same tests also designed to be run on a small (even single node) Hadoop 
> cluster.  While not required at this time, it would be nice if such a 
> resource were available.
>
> === Initial Committers ===
>
> Avery Ching, aching at yahoo-inc dot com
> Christian Kunz, christian at jybe-inc dot com
> Owen O’Malley, owen at hortonworks dot com
>
> === Affiliations ===
>
> Avery Ching, Yahoo!
> Christian Kunz, Jybe
>
> == Sponsors ==
>
> === Champion ===
>
> Owen O’ Malley
>
> === Nominated Mentors ===
>
> Owen O’Malley
>
> === Sponsoring Entity ===
>
> Apache Incubator PMC
>



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
@eddieyoon

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