On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:32:37 AM Karl Wright wrote: >> OK - so now I'm getting conflicting advice. Somebody went through a >> fair bit of effort to implement the geronimo versions of all these >> packages, including saaj-impl. Are you saying that Sun/Oracle >> recently changed the licensing terms sufficiently that substituting >> the geronimo jars is no longer necessary? > > I wouldn't say recently, but yes. They did change licenses a while ago *for > new releases* from BCL to CDDL which moved them from Category X to Category > B. > So yes, substituting the geronimo jars in MOST cases is no longer necessary.
Agreed. > However, not all of the Sun jars have had a new release with the new License. > > That said, may folks would prefer the Apache licensed versions. > > That said, you specifically asked about saaj-impl, not saaj-api. Geronimo > doesn't have a saaj-impl. The closest at Apache would likely be in Axis. I > believe they have an saaj-impl based on Axiom someplace. Geronimo does have > an saaj-api I believe. > > >> If so, what caveats do I >> need to include in NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt, or should I just copy >> whatever Chemistry does? > > Well, you'd need to mention the CDDL license for the saaj-impl in the > LICENSE.TXT. Adding a bit more background: saaj-impl (and many of the other implementations/specs) are dual licensed GPL v2 and CDDL. Any ASF project should choose CDDL. I had thought that the procedure for this was to include both of the licenses, then explicitly choose the preferred license. Looks like I'm wrong/out-of-date. Only the CDDL license should be included. See http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#mutually-exclusive for details. --kevan >> Karl >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:08:52 AM Karl Wright wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The ManifoldCF has had a connector contributed that is based on Apache >>>> Chemistry. The dependencies of Apache Chemistry include >>>> activation-1.1.jar and saaj-impl-1.3.jar, both of which seem to be >>>> from Sun, and are (I believe) covered by the Sun/Oracle license. I >>>> was told a while back that activation.jar could not be included in MCF >>>> for this reason, but that there was a geronimo-activation.jar >>>> available instead, which is what ManifoldCF uses. But I don't know >>>> about saaj-impl. >>> >>> The recent versions of most of that stuff is CDDL which is OK (category >>> b >>> license) for shipping the binaries. Definitely use 1.3.2 though: >>> >>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com/sun/xml/messaging/saaj/saaj-impl/1.3.2 >>> / >>> >>> >>> >>> Dan >>> >>>> (a) Does anyone know if there's an Apache-licensed replacement for >>>> saaj-impl? (b) Should somebody tell Chemistry that they may have a >>>> license problem? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Karl >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Kulp >>> dk...@apache.org >>> http://dankulp.com/blog >>> Talend - http://www.talend.com > -- > Daniel Kulp > dk...@apache.org > http://dankulp.com/blog > Talend - http://www.talend.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
