Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
> > Just because you choose a particular license that does not make you
> > de-facto 'upstream'.
You may not like that a diode only allows current to flow one way, but that is
its function.
The notion of upstream is simply a factual function that code can only flow in
one direction due to the license. It doesn't cover the ratio or quality of
work, just a statement of direction.
There is also the tacit belief that we'd all like to avoid a fork, and that is
the way to avoid it, again, because code can only flow one way. I have seen no
proposal from anyone that avoids a fork without having a permissively licensed
upstream source or having TDF change to the necessary form of license.
> What he misses (as quite a few others do, which is possibly why you
> are reacting angry) is a certain amount of sensibility that
> acknowledges that this fact is just as likely to cause a total split
> between LO and OO.
Actually, I recognize the issue.
> > Do you really think that you can then proclaim yourself 'upstream'
> > [and] and start telling [people] from now on _we_ get to run the
> > show...
Who is this "we" to whom you refer? It isn't the ASF. This is the formation
of a new WE: an OpenOffice.org Community. It already exists in other forms and
places, and all of those people are welcome to participate. All that the ASF
provides is a license, support and infrastructure. The WE are YOU: IBM, TDF,
anyone else who wants to work on the code.
I would suggest that the new WE should offer commit rights to people who have
existing commit access to the code base at TDF.
> > And of course make that bold statement even before you read the code,
> > figure out how to build it or even figure out what you want to try to
> > do with it and how.
Again, the people coming here are the WE. Those who join the Community. And
those WE have read the code, do builds, etc.
--- Noel
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