Look guys, this is going round in circles. I'm not an ASF or TDF member but I spent quite a lot of time and effort on OOo and ODF in the past so I care what happens. The fact is the software grant is made. My understanding is that if the code goes into the incubator it does not even guarantee it will emerge as a marketable product. It might just sit on a shelf in ASF gathering dust because no-one really has the resources to do anything with it. OTOH it might thrive and take over the desktop office world (I wish :-) ) . At this point there is no way of knowing. All this incubator process is supposed to do is see if ASF members think it has some potential. Its good to get all the issues out in the open but this one on the "IBM conspiracy theory" is really exhausted. It's not going to change anything.
Let's say we persuaded the good guys at Apache that this is a ploy to manipulate them and they reject the code. Where then will it go? If conspiracy is right it definitely won't be to TDF and it could be to somewhere a lot more damaging to TDF than the ASF. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.