Yes, Simon, I am aware of that. But I have no standing in the IPMC to liaise with another organization on their behalf. Jim sent a note to their leaders, as well as OOo, and invited them to join this conversation. Several of their Steering Committee and Engineering Steering Committee members have already posted on this list. It would be reasonable to suspect that the remaining ones are lurking. So I know that they have received these questions.
I hope they will consider the questions and respond and move this conversation forward. If they don't want to, there are 100's of excuses that could be used. If they want to respond, it is far simpler. Regards, -Rob Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> wrote on 06/03/2011 08:21:12 PM: > From: Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: 06/03/2011 08:22 PM > Subject: Re: TDF/LO, what is the art of the possible? > > Rob - their mailing list is over at steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org, > details here: > http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists > > > S. > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:09 AM, <robert_w...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > > > If someone on the list from TDF is authorized to answer this (or can get > > such authorization), I'd appreciate an official stance on the following > > questions. This would help us understand what room there is for > > negotiation and what is not worth discussing at all. > > > > For "willing to consider it", I mean in the context of a negotiation where > > there is some give and take. I'm not asking if you're willing to do this > > for nothing. I just want to understand what are the deal breakers and > > where we should be focusing discussions. > > > > I'm not interested in debating these questions in this thread, aside from > > clarifications. We're debating these issues in other threads. I'm just > > trying to see if we can agree on which of these directions, if any, is > > likely to be fruitful and which ones, if any, are fundamentally impossible > > for TDF/LO. > > > > I think we've given straightforward answers on where ASF is flexible and > > where it cannot budge. I'd welcome similar clarity from TDF/LO, in the > > spirit of moving forward these discussions. > > > > Regards, > > > > -Rob > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > 1) Require Apache 2.0 licence for future contributions to LO, possibly in > > addition with other compatible licenses. > > > > a) Not willing to consider it > > > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > > > 2) Encourage and facilitate TDF members signing an Apache CLA on their > > past LO contributions > > > > a) Not willing to consider it > > > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > > > 3) Encourage and facilitate TDF members contributing their work to both > > Apache and TDF under respective licenses > > > > a) Not willing to consider it > > > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > > > 4) Join Apache and do the core development work there, with LibreOffice > > being a downstream consumer of the core, collaborating closely with Apache > > via patches, defect reports, etc. > > > > a) Not willing to consider it > > > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > > > 5) Join Apache and consolidate all development there, under the name > > OpenOffice > > > > a) Not willing to consider it > > > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > > > 6) Join Apache and consolidate all development there, under the name > > LibreOffice. > > > > a) Not willing to consider it > > > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > > > 7) Join Apache and consolidate all development there, under the name ODF > > Suite. > > > > a) Not willing to consider it > > > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > Simon Phipps > +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
