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I submit that it's not the purview of the ASF or the Incubator PMC to achieve world peace, or whirled peas, or a single project for open source document software. Oracle has granted code to the ASF. A group of people have made a proposal to launch a podling based on that granted code. The incubator has criteria for judging proposals. They relate to the probability of the successful creation of a self-sustaining Apache project. The existing of TDF and the preference of its contributors for copyleft is data, but for me it's not data that could persuade me to vote -1 in this PMC. I don't care if there are 5,000 people out there who are firmly planning to stick to TDF like glue. I care if there are 10 or 20 who are prepared to take this on. Personally, I also prefer to be lenient about launching podlings and then strict about noticing when they are failing to hatch. I am sympathetic to those TDF contributors for whom this development arrives as an unwelcome surprise and perhaps a cheap parthian shot from Oracle and IBM. However, as a member of the ASF and the incubator PMC, my sympathy does not extend to voting against this proposal on criteria related to the possible damage to TDF/LO or the success or failure of some attempt treat this as 'the one and only' successor to the Sun's open office. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org