You've certainly answered my questions. I'd suggest you also post this info to legal-discuss to close off the thread there, for historical reasons at least!
Upayavira On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:01 +0200, "Simone Tripodi" <simonetrip...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi again guys, > just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew > Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in > the far 1998. > Then, it was moved to OpenSimphony only in the 2004 - later moved to > its own domain. > I'd say that nobody can claim OGNL trademark unless Drew, that has > been included in the Initial Committers list, and has donated OGNL > codebase signing the SoftwareGrant. > Sunds like the proposal is almost ready to be submitted, what do you > think? > Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On 4/8/11 7:06 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > >> I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed when > >> it voted to sponsor this project. If that is necessary I'm sure they will > >> let the project know. > > We voted to sponsor OGNL. Martin is right that our policy is to > > avoid the cutesy names, favoring descriptive names instead. EL and > > SCXML are two examples of spec-related Commons components whose > > names - conveniently for users - describe what they are. Unless > > there really is a compelling need to change the name from OGNL, it > > should stay as is. > > > > Phil > >> Ralph > >> > >> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Jeremias Maerki > >>> <d...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote: > >>>> I'm sorry that I can't help out but when reading this I thought that > >>>> using the spec name as the project name is probably not ideal. How about > >>>> calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Hopefully, this doesn't have any > >>>> strange meaning in some language. Just a thought. > >>> Commons has a policy of using descriptive names. Yes, there are a few > >>> existing projects that don't fit this - ones that were grandfathered > >>> in when the policy was introduced - but it would be better to start > >>> incubation with a name that would meet Commons' criteria rather than > >>> one that will need changing yet again on graduation. > >>> > >>> A lot of people both within and outwith the ASF know the name OGNL, so > >>> unless there's a pressing need, it would make sense to keep it. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Martin Cooper > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 08.04.2011 09:26:43 Simone Tripodi wrote: > >>>>> Hi all guys, > >>>>> I'm almost ready to submit a new proposal I'm preparing on Wiki[1] for > >>>>> Apache OGNL. > >>>>> The idea is importing the OGNL project under the Apache umbrella and, > >>>>> once/if ready, be promoted in Apache Commons - the Commons PMC already > >>>>> voted to be the Sponsor. > >>>>> All legal issues have been resolved, we have the Champion - Lukasz > >>>>> Lenart - and a great Mentor - Olivier Lamy - what we miss are 2 more > >>>>> mentors... any volunteer? :) > >>>>> It would be nice also if you can provide your feedbacks, once raw the > >>>>> proposal. > >>>>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!!! > >>>>> Simo > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OGNLProposal > >>>>> > >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > >>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Jeremias Maerki > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
