Michael, I believe that's correct -- it'd be great if you can take point on
hitting up the wave committers to submit their ICLAs.

For Ian Roughley and myself, we already have them on file. I think we'll
just need to get karma when we get to that point.

FYI -- for the Googlers, there is already a CCLA on file.

-Dan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Michael MacFadden <
michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ralph,
>
> If I understand correctly, an individual could submit an ICLA first and
> then later submit the CCLA if the employer or situation requires it.
>  Meaning that previously submitting an ICLA would not be in conflict with a
> subsequent CCLA.  If that is the case I would recommend all of the initial
> committees for Wave get those in as soon as possible. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Tad Glines wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/04/2010 09:22 AM, Tad Glines wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, committers will not be issued accounts until their CLA (either
> ICLA
> >>>> or
> >>>> CCLA) has been received and recorded. Here's the new committers guide:
> >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm fairly certain all committers needs to fill out the ICLA, no?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, I see. Reading this <http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas> further
> I
> >> see that all have to sign an ICLA, but for some their employer will need
> to
> >> submit a CCLA.
> >
> > It is usually the case that some will want their employer to submit a
> CCLA rather than need to.  The ICLA is the way an individual states that
> they have the right to commit the software they contribute.  If during the
> course of their employment they are called upon to enhance or fix bugs in an
> Apache project the ICLA is sufficient for them to do that provided they have
> permission to do so from their employer.  The CCLA protects the individual
> in that case by explicitly stating the listed individuals have that right.
> The CCLA is also one way a company can donate software directly to the ASF.
>  There are quite a few companies that don't want to submit a CCLA but will
> allow their employees to contribute. In those cases it is up to the
> individual to make sure they are protected should management changes occur,
> etc.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> >
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