sounds good. 

A minor question: do you plan to graduate under the umbrella of the Maven TLP 
or 
becoming an own TLP?

LieGrue,
strub




----- Original Message ----
> From: Josimpson Ocaba <joc...@g2ix.net>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 12:10:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] NPanday Project
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We would like to inquire if there are any more comments before we  could 
> start 
>a vote.
> 
> note: We also have a current vote for a new committer  at codeplex, so we 
> will 
>wait for the results on that and adjust the proposal  before the vote if 
>needed.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  "Josimpson Ocaba" <joc...@g2ix.net>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent:  Friday, July 23, 2010 1:23:18 PM
> Subject: [PROPOSAL] NPanday  Project
> 
> Good Day, In behalf of the NPanday community I would like to  share with you 
>our proposal for the NPanday project to be included amongst one  of the 
>incubation projects.
> 
> Here is the link for the proposal in the  incubation: 
>http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NPandayProposal
> and here is the  link for the current location of the project:   
>http://npanday.codeplex.com/    
>
> 
> Please let us know any  feedbacks or questions about the proposal. We would 
>very much welcome any  volunteers to help us guide NPanday through this 
>incubation  process.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> NPanday Proposal
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Abstract
> 
> NPanday y allows projects using the .NET framework to be built with Apache 
>Maven.  NPanday allows .NET projects to be converted into Maven projects thus 
>allowing  them to fully utilize the other technologies driven by Maven.  
>Proposal
> 
> NPanday primarily provides two capabilities: a set of Maven  plugins, for 
>constructing builds in Maven that use the .NET command-line tools;  and a 
>Visual 
>Studio Addin that keeps a Visual Studio project in sync with the  Maven POM 
>and 
>adds reference resolution from Maven artifact repositories.  Together this 
>allows you to use a single tool across .NET, Java or any other  Maven-based 
>projects, including the same benefits of dependency management,  automated 
>release and source control management.
> 
> Background
> 
> When  building .NET projects traditionally you would use the built in 
>components in  Visual Studio or compile the source code by hand in the command 
>line using .NET  frameworks. NPanday gives an alternative building management  
>option.
> 
> NPanday also allows developers to continue to build and develop  .NET 
> projects 
>even without the aid of Visual  Studio.
> 
> Rationale
> 
> NPanday allows developers to still use the .NET  Frameworks and technologies 
>that they need and at the same time allow their  projects to be distributed 
>and 
>released with greater ease using Maven's  conventions. NPanday also helps 
>those 
>developers maintain and integrate their  project in a continuus integration 
>that 
>could host both Java and .NET  projects.
> 
> Initial Goals
> 
> The initial goals for NPanday  are:
> 
>     * Donate the existing codebase and import  it.
>     * Setup the incubation infrastructure (svn repository,  build system, 
>website) so we can run continuous builds with automated testing  and publish 
>all 
>available documentation and releases, and migrate from  Codeplex
>     * Get people involved in advancing the code base in  different 
> directions, 
>integrating it with other projects at Apache.
>      * Work closely with current contributors and seek to add new  committers
>     * Prepare for a point release that meets incubator  and Apache criteria
>     * Start active development on NPanday 2.0 
> 
> Current Status
> 
> The current codebase is developed and tested in  both .NET and Java. It was 
>developed at Codeplex for the last two years after  originally being forked 
>from 
>the failed NMaven incubator podling.
> 
> We have  a number of releases all of which have followed a clear transparent 
>process.  Documentation for the project is currently available in  
>http://www.npanday.org/docs/1.2/, which can be donated and converted to the  
>Apache NPanday website. The development team is currently using Codeplex  
>discussion forums as the primary colaborative  process.
> 
> Meritocracy
> 
> Some of the core developers are already  committers and PMC members at 
> Apache, 
>so they understand what it means to have a  process based on meritocracy.
> 
> NPanday has been operating under an  Apache-like model since its inception.
> 
> Community
> 
> We've seen a  number of new contributors joining the community recently.. 
> Most 
>of the  community members have found NPanday through searching for Maven in 
>.NET 
>and  have donated their own tweaks as they continue to consume NPanday. The 
>community  members have actively created issues that are improving the 
>behaviors 
>and bugs  in the current version.
> 
> Core Developers
> 
> The core development team  started mostly with members from MaestroDev and 
> has 
>been recently added with  other independent developers. Most of the 
>development 
>team members have  experience in other Apache projects.
> 
> Alignment
> 
> The initial  codebase came from NMaven in the incubator, and because of that 
>and the Apache  committers involved it has always had an Apache development 
>philosophy. It is  designed to work with Apache Maven, though has some value 
>to 
>anyone that can use  a POM. We would also like to reach out to other 
>.NET-based 
>projects at  Apache.
> 
> Known Risks
> 
> The primary risk to growth is attracting .NET  developers to the project.
> 
> Orphaned Products
> 
> There is already a  growing community in existence and the members of the 
>community are active  towards enhancing NPanday even more, including some 
>existing Apache committers.  NPanday has also been advertised in the 
>Philippines 
>as a gateway for students  and developers to get involved in open source 
>projects. There are no signs of  the project being orphaned or abandoned, but 
>we 
>realise that continuing to grow  diversity of committers and traction among 
>users will be important to secure its  future.
> 
> Homogenous Developers
> 
> The committers of NPanday are from  at least 2 different companies, 
> MaestroDev 
>and Itemis. NPanday also has  contributors from other companies and are 
>interested to be committers as  well.
> 
> Reliance on Salaried Developers
> 
> Although NPanday mostly  consists of MaestroDev employees the work for 
> NPanday 
>is done on billed time and  non billed time.
> 
> Initial Source
> 
> NPanday has been in development  within codeplex since 2008. Source and 
>Intellectual Property Submission Plan The  contributions are from three 
>sources:
> 
>     * the original  (cleared) NMaven code
>     * contributions by MaestroDev employees  (will be covered under a 
> software 
>grant/CCLA)
>     * contributions  by active individuals (will submit CLAs) 
> 
> We wish to explore whether we  should import this picking up the NMaven 
>history.
> Required  Resources
> 
> Mailing lists:
> 
>     * npanday-...@incubator.apache.org
>      * npanday-comm...@incubator.apache.org
>      * npanday-us...@incubator.apache.org
>      * npanday-priv...@incubator.apache.org 
> 
> Subversion:
> 
>     * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/npanday 
> 
> Issue  Tracking:
> 
>     * JIRA: Apache npanday (npanday) 
> 
> Wiki:
> 
>     * Confluence: Apache npanday (npanday) 
> 
> Initial Committers
> 
>     * Marecor Baclay <mbac...@apache.org>
>     *  Odea Ching <och...@apache.org>
>     *  Lars Corneliussen <l...@corneliussen.de>
>      * Joe Ocaba <joc...@maestrodev.com>
>      * Adelita Padilla <apadi...@maestrodev.com>
>      * Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>
>     * Wendy  Smoak <wsm...@apache.org> 
> 
> note: We also  have a number of emeritus committers, and one that has been 
>accepted but is  awaiting approval from their employer. They are not initially 
>listed, but we  expect that they would be welcome back if available. The 
>podling 
>would vote on  them as normal should that occur.
> 
> Affiliations
> 
> Brett Porter, Wendy  Smoak, Odea Ching, Marecor Baclay, Joe Ocaba, and 
> Adelita 
>Padilla work for  MaestroDev and Lars Corneliussen works for Itemis.
> 
> Sponsors
> 
> We  have approached both the champion and an initial list of mentors that 
> have  
>agreed to mentor this project. Champion:
> 
>     * Brett Porter 
> 
> Mentors:
> 
>     * Dennis Lundberg
>     * Gavin  McDonald
>     * Odea Ching 
> 
> Sponsor:
> 
>     *  Apache Incubator 
>     
>     
> 
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