The project's PMC is the leadership...it's not devoid of leadership. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Greg Brown<gkbr...@mac.com> wrote: > OK, then I'll try to provide more clarification. I don't understand how a > project without leadership can succeed. I don't care what you call it, > someone needs to drive the process. I'm not talking about an implication of > authority or a higher degree of ownership - I'm talking strictly about > making things happen. If that's not a "leader", then what is it, in ASF > terms? > > Note that "leader" does not necessarily mean "singular" (i.e. "dictator"). > Most projects have multiple leaders. IMO, a project without a "leader" (or > leaders), will go nowhere. > > G > > On Aug 10, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> >>> From: Greg Brown <gkbr...@mac.com> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:12:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: incorrect terminology: lead developers >>> >>>> We don't have a notion of fixed leadership at Apache. Leadership is >>>> always welcome but it is determined by the will of the group in question >>>> at a given point in time, not based on one's official status. We try to >>>> avoid status symbols in order to retain the fair balance of individual >>>> decision making within our projects. >>> >>> Of course. My issue is with the idea that a project can be successful in >>> the >>> absence of any kind of leadership. So maybe some clarification on >>> terminology is >>> in order... >> >> I thought David's explanation that we don't us the phrase "project leads" >> at Apache was fairly straightforward ;-). >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
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