On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Vincent Siveton <vsive...@apache.org> wrote:
> Joining the Apache community is great news, gives more visibility to
> the SocialSite community and ... lets an opportunity to the project to
> not simply die.

My thoughts exactly.


> Worthwhile initiative, thanks Dave!
>
> As Shindig PMC, I am specially interested on the Shindig parts :)
> Could you please comment:
> * "Project SocialSite is ... based on Apache Shindig (incubating)"
> Could you develop on this integration? Is that it can be seen as a
> kind of risk due to the incubation?

SocialSite is basically Shindig plus these things:
- Persistence for social data via JPA
- Extensions to OpenSocial APIs for friending, gadget management
- Infrastructure for running gadgets remotely, similar to Friend Connect
- OpenSocial gadgets that form a complete UI for social networking

Since Shindig is still in incubation, SocialSite's graduation could be
put at risk should Shindig fail to graduate.


> * "keep in sync ... with the Apache Shindig (incubating) project"
> How do you plan to do that? I am willing to help you!

That simply means periodically upgrading the version of Shindig we use
in SocialSite. That can be a bit of a pain because the Shindig
handlers/services interfaces tend to change alot.

> Also, an IP question: do we need to have in our hands the grant paper
> from Sun before starting the incubation process?

Good question. I think we do need the code grant paper work first, but
perhaps after a vote.

Anybody else have comments/questions about the SocialSite proposal?

- Dave


> 2009/4/9 Dave <snoopd...@gmail.com>:
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Nick Lothian
>> <nloth...@educationau.edu.au> wrote:
>>> I'm quite interested in this proposal - I think it's a good fit at Apache, 
>>> and Dave has put projects through the incubator before.
>>>
>>> I'd like to highlight something that's made me a little hesitant about 
>>> getting involved in SocialSite earlier, though. As it stands now it's quite 
>>> large, moderately complex codebase, with a very, very small community. The 
>>> commits mailing list shows Dave has been the only committer active on it 
>>> since January, and the dev list is also of correspondingly low volume.
>>>
>>> In the "Reliance on Salaried Developers" the proposal says "Risk level: 
>>> moderate. The community includes members who are paid to work on the code 
>>> and some who are not." What part of the system are these paid developers 
>>> working on?
>>
>> Those are valid concerns and your observations are correct.
>>
>> The salaried developers are from the consulting firm Globant, which
>> has an OpenSocial practice and has done extensive work for Google.
>> They are preparing to put SocialSite into production at a large web
>> site made up of multiple web applications and communities. They have
>> been working on "porting" SocialSite to JBoss, Tomcat and making the
>> JPA implementation work with Hibernate's JPA. They have not yet
>> submitted patches for this code.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopd...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2009 11:12 AM
>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Cc: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart; rovagn...@gmail.com; Jamey Wood; Robert
>>>> Bissett; leandro.milma...@globant.com; rodr...@globant.com; Tony Ng
>>>> Subject: [PROPOSAL] Apache SocialSite
>>>>
>>>> Greetings to all,
>>>>
>>>> It's my pleasure to present to you a proposal for a new project Apache
>>>> SocialSite, a social networking service based on Apache Shindig
>>>> (incubating) with an end-user interface composed entirely of
>>>> OpenSocial gadgets and designed to add social networking features to
>>>> existing web applications (e.g. Roller, JSPWiki, your favorite webapp,
>>>> etc.). You can find the full proposal on the Incubator wiki:
>>>>
>>>>    http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SocialSiteProposal
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to your comments and suggestions on this proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dave
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