I'm totaly agree with Andrus.

I think that AutoDeploy is complement of Puppet :
- Puppet can be in charge of the application server core installation, HTTP 
server, etc
- AutoDeploy comes after to deploy final application in the application server

Regards
JB

On Thursday 18 December 2008 - 18:00, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Yeah, I am curious how practical it is to use Puppet to deploy JEE apps? 
> Maybe for managing the server config files, but the actual app  
> deployment???
>
> (sorry, that's getting a bit OT, but I think this discussion is still  
> useful in mapping the AutoDeploy problem domain, and hence explaining  
> the proposal to potential mentors).
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Puppet is interesting but the scope is not exactly the same :  
>> AutoDeploy is
>> mainly focus on JEE environments (supporting all JEE resources).
>> Nevertheless, AutoDeploy and Puppet can be complementary tool.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
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>> j...@nanthrax.net
>> BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader
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>> On Thu 18/12/08 15:56, "David Pollak" feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pizzazz (Yoav's proposition) and DeployX looks nice :)
>>>>
>>>> What do you think of Apache Prop ?
>>>
>>> My 2 cents... have you seen Puppet?
>>> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet [1]
>>>
>>> It's a Ruby-land tool that does many of the same things that your
>>> project
>>> does. It's being used at some notable and large scale Rails powered
>>> sites
>>> with success. Borrowing some of Puppet's excellent ideas or even
>>> working
>>> with the Puppet folks (Luke Kanies is a very cool guy) might lead to
>>> an even
>>> better tool.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday 18 December 2008 - 01:11, Ali Ok wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently the project is named AutoDeploy which is a little bit
>>>> confusing
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> Apache Scrum is just a name proposition, I'm open to all other
>>> name :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How about DeployX :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried checking from nameprotect.com, but I couldnt.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/12/18 Noel J. Bergman
>>>>>
>>>>>> As with Yoav, I am in favor of this project. It resonates with
>>> what I
>>>> do
>>>>>> for a living. Also as with Yoav, I'd suggest a different name.
>>> And I
>>>> am
>>>>>> personally hoping that more names with be at least marginally
>>>> reflective of
>>>>>> what the project does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would ask that you take a look at Lokahi
>>>>>> (http://incubator.apache.org/lokahi/). [2] And we should engage
>>> projects
>>>> like
>>>>>> Tomcat, Geronimo, Ode, Tuscany, et al, with the goal of being
>>> able to
>>>>>> centrally install, manage and deploy with as many of them as
>>> possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you use ssh to jumpstart, e.g., to install the agent
>>> remotely?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Noel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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