+1. A release is a release is a release. If we are concerned about projects staying in the incubator, then let's ban them from releasing anymore. Or, say, only max five releases during incubation. But once a release is done under the ASL, there's not really much we can do to stop its onward distribution.
Regards, Upayavira On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 09:00 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > -1 (Binding) > > On Sep 22, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Paul Querna wrote: > > > -1, (Binding). > > > > (For the reasons explained by Craig and Justin in this Thread) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > > Craig L Russell wrote: > >> -1 > >> I believe that allowing incubating releases to be treated as full > >> Apache releases diminishes the Apache brand and makes incubation > >> disclaimers moot. > >> With Maven, it is too easy to depend on a release with transitive > >> dependencies on incubating releases without even knowing it. When > >> the incubating release subsequently is abandoned, blame will be > >> cast widely, including Apache itself. > >> Considering that dependencies on incubating releases can be > >> resolved by explicitly adding an incubating Maven repository into > >> your settings, I don't think that wide, mirrored, distribution is > >> warranted. > >> Craig > >> On Sep 9, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> We've had a number of long discussions about the incubating projects > >>> using the central Maven repository to distribute their releases. The > >>> current policy is that incubating releases should not go to there. > >>> The > >>> related discussion threads have died with no consensus but the issue > >>> still exists and affects many podlings. I would like to finally > >>> resolve the issue one way or another by calling the Incubator PMC to > >>> vote on the matter. > >>> > >>> In INCUBATOR-82 I have prepared a patch (also attached below) that > >>> changes the policy document to explicitly _allow_ extra distribution > >>> channels like the central Maven repository for incubating releases. > >>> Note that the proposed patch allows any such channels instead of > >>> focusing just on the Maven repository. Also, any releases must still > >>> be approved, comply with the disclaimer and naming rules, and be > >>> primarily distributed through the official > >>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ channel. > >>> > >>> Please vote on accepting or rejecting this policy change! This > >>> majority vote is open for a week and only votes from the Incubator > >>> PMC > >>> members are binding. > >>> > >>> [ ] +1 Yes, allow extra release distribution channels like the > >>> central > >>> Maven repository > >>> [ ] -1 No, keep the current policy > >>> > >>> My vote is +1 > >>> > >>> BR, > >>> > >>> Jukka Zitting > >>> > >>> Patch from https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-82: > >>> > >>> Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml > >>> =================================================================== > >>> --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml (revision > >>> 692094) > >>> +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml (working copy) > >>> @@ -489,6 +489,8 @@ > >>> <p> > >>> Releases for <em>podling</em> <strong>MUST</strong> be distributed > >>> through > >>> <code>http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/<em>podling</em></code>. > >>> +In addition, the Podling MAY choose to distribute approved > >>> releases through > >>> +other channels like the central Maven repository. > >>> </p> > >>> </section> > >>> <section id="Use+of+Apache+Resources"> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >> Craig L Russell > >> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo > >> 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
