On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:41 AM, James Carman wrote:
Doesn't requiring a library with an excluded license pretty much throw the apache license part out the window?
No, Apache distributions contain Apache-licensed code and Apache- compatible-licensed code.
Many Apache projects have dependencies on third party products but that doesn't change the nature of the Apache project.
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Craig
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Philippe Ombredanne wrote:Howdy:I am working on couchdb installers that I would like to contribute back tothe project:A fully functional CouchDb install has a few external dependencies suchas: - ICU (ICU License a BSD/MIT style license) - Mozilla SpiderMonkey (MPL, GPL or LGPL) - Erlang (ERLANG PUBLIC LICENSE) - Openssl (OpenSSL license, a BSD style license)My understanding is that it would not be acceptable IP-clearance wise to have all (though some may be) those bits shipped as part of all- inclusiveinstallers.That's my understanding of the current consensus as well.My request:Would it be acceptable to create installers that would fetch at installtime the required external bits from their original download locations? Those fetch operations would be clearly presented as external fetch operationsto the users.I think the current operative policy is from http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html: • For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may provide alink/reference on the product web site or within product documentation to some other web site that hosts such add-ons (e.g. a SF.net project or some third-party site dedicated to distributing add-ons for the Apache product) as long as it is made clear to users that the host site is not part of theApache product nor endorsed by the ASF.• For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may include a feature within the product that allows the user to obtain third-party add- ons if the feature also alerts the user of the associated license and makes clear to users that the host site is not part of the Apache product nor endorsed bythe ASF.So as long as your installer makes it clear to the user that the external bits are not Apache-licensed, I read the policy as allowing the CouchDb installer to fetch and install them and thereby make them available to theCouchDb user. CraigCordially -- Cheers Philippe philippe ombredanne | 1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne at nexb.com nexB - Open by Design (tm) - http://www.nexb.comhttp://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net - http://eclipse.org/atf -http://eclipse.org/vep - http://labs.jboss.org/drools/ - http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Craig L RussellArchitect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ jdo408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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