On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...Ok. Next we get rid of disclaimers everywhere? What purpose does that > serve?...
I don't see why we would get rid of disclaimers. -Bertrand > > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > | Hi Dims, > | > | On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | > |> ...Any PMC that ships incubator developed code is responsible for what > |> happens when a community does not form around the code base used. Any > |> one outside Apache that ships incubator code should be totally aware > |> of what they are getting into.... > | > | Agreed. > | > |> ...Bottom line, who ever used abdera code should do it consciously. I > |> agree that adding a second repo may be causing pain to the end users. > |> But this is for better or worse a "feature" because we don't have a > |> better way of doing this given the tools we have and the use cases the > |> tools are pushing on unsuspecting users :)... > | > | It might be a feature when someone has add the incubating repository > | to their configs the first time they need it, but after that any > | incubating artifacts might sneak in without people noticing it. People > | will add the incubating repository to their parent poms, and it will > | be mostly invisible after that. > | > |> ...So can we figure out another way to make the end user make a conscious > |> decision?... > | > | The final solution to this probably belongs in Maven, where the > | general case of "I want to approve any transitive dependency > | explicitely" should be solved. I'm not following Maven enough to know > | if that's on their todo list. > | > |> ...I doubt we will get much help from the maven team to support this use > |> case. They would rather get the central repo and get it done! What > |> bugs me is that in this whole discussion, no one even mentions how > |> easy it is to add another repo in the poms or the settings.... > | > | I agree that it is easy, but as explained above it probably only > | solves a small part of the problem, and some of us think that that's > | not worth the hassle. Add on top of that the varying perception of the > | quality and "Apacheness" of incubator releases, and you get the whole > | range of opinions about a separate repository, which we're seeing in > | this and other discussions. > | > |> ...Why can't people at least pretend to come up with some alternatives > |> rather than just chant "central repo!" :)... > | > | The central repository is very useful for Maven users, so I guess we > | want it to be as complete as possible. > | > | -Bertrand > | > | --------------------------------------------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIc1XzgNg6eWEDv1kRAhvcAKCPrbUsWR7hM70VHOIzzdI3mvtO2ACeObL4 > r3vI/cKBW5IPBcbUK01PwvA= > =NCss > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Bertrand Delacretaz http://www.codeconsult.ch --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
