On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Rainer Döbele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the current community's needs Empire-db is already quite mature hence > there has not been a lot of demand for new features or bug-fixes recently. > This may change with a larger community which is what we're looking for.
This reminds me of a saying posed here @apache: "bad code generates good community" (or something similar). When a project is mature, and doesn't have a list of issues and especially new features that need to be solved it is hard to attract new developers. The market for ORM solutions is already crowded, so you'll probably need to convince folks of the benefits of the project. > So to answer your question: The project is NOT "done" it's just awaiting new > challenges and new participants. I find this alarming: when there are no new challenges awaiting the project, why join Apache? The code is stable and mature, you can just leave it at sf.net. There doesn't seem to be a plan other than "let's join Apache and hope the community grows automatically". If the current core developers don't have challenges for the project, how would the community grow? I've done some googling, and the only references to empire-db are from the incubator list and the site itself. Is the project known outside these 2 groups? I'm not convinced yet that incubating at Apache is the best thing for empire-db. I think that seeking out new ideas, users and (future) committers for the project is the highest priority. Of course this can be done whilest incubating, but having incubator plastered all over the project won't attract more users or developers. Some mild marketing such as posting an article on javalobby (java.dzone.com) or theserverside.com to get some publicity will help the project more than becoming an Apache project. Martijn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]