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Quick question, haven't thought thru, but raising it here...Does it make sense 
to align voting in a new committer with
"Voting in a new PPMC member"? (on the same page)?

thanks,
dims

Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
| Currently on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, we have:
| ---
| Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the
| Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the
| vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the
| podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best
| practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer
| calls a vote on the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the
| discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and
| vote threads by the PPMC. The Incubator vote is done even if there are
| three +1 votes from Incubator PMC members during the PPMC vote, in
| order to give all Incubator PMC members a chance to express their
| support or disapproval after seeing the PPMC discussion and vote
| results. Note that only the Incubator PMC members can see the
| Incubator private discussion, and the podling's Mentors should review
| all Incubator PMC feedback with the PPMC. Moreover, only Apache
| members may review the private PPMC list (this is normally not an
| issue since most Incubator PMC members are Apache members).
| ---
|
| I'd like to make the suggestion that we alter this to:
| ---
| Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the
| Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the
| vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the
| podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best
| practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer
| *sends a note to* the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the
| discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and
| vote threads by the PPMC.  *Any member of the Incubator PMC can ACK
| the receipt of the vote.  This starts a 72-hour window for lazy
| consensus.  After 72 hours and no requests by any Incubator PMC member
| for a full vote by the Incubator PMC, the committer request is
| approved by the Incubator PMC and the PPMC can start the committer
| invitation process.*
| ---
|
| This intentionally follows the procedure for adding a PMC member wrt
| full ASF board.  I like the concept of expanding this for committers
| as well for Incubation, so there.  I don't like needless 'dual
| voting', but I do want the IPMC to have the chance to execute
| oversight.
|
| WDYT?    -- justin
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