Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate JSecurity Project

[Craig L Russell]

Hi Alex,




Craig

On Jun 1, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote:

I think the proposal is a good one and has good prospects for success. No quarrel with anything you've said.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:

On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

On May 31, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

I've signed on to mentor this project.

Great!

Maybe there is a "fast track" through the incubator, and this is a good

project to try it out. Can JSecurity get graduated in six months?

IIUC, all incubator projects are on the "fast track".

think all projects are on the fast track.

Well, there is a big difference between entry and exit criteria for the incubator. Many projects entering incubation need to resolve IP issues, build a community, and learn how to work in open source. So, no, I don't

up to them to achieve what is required for graduation.


but you just never know how long this will take.


do.

It's all up to the community. They're in charge of their destiny and it's Bottom line, the podling must meet the Apache Incubator's criteria. If that occurs quickly then wonderful, if not, then it may take some more time to cook. It may never graduate at all if the criteria are not met and the right community does not gel. Furthermore, the project may decide down the road that the Apache Way may not be the best way for them. Who knows? Even with our easiest incubation (Wicket I think) we were hopeful at the start Healthy stable communities form like a fine wine and rushing graduation is like rushing the fermentation process. It takes a while to get there but when we do we've got a gem. Regardless though, let's not impose artificial time frames on increasing or decreasing the incubation time. Let's just get on with meeting the criteria for graduation. That's the best that we can

I personally like to see one release under incubation to see the podling

in action.

And most incubator folks agree.

+1

Regards,
Alex

Craig Russell
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