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I agree with Robert, I'd prefer to wait a bit to see the community grow. Yes, 
it's a subjective call. No, not enough for
a -1....So my vote would be a -0.

thanks,
dims

Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
| On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>  Qpid entered into the incubator November 2006, and has made releases, is
|>  in the
|>  process of closing down another minor release and well on the way to the
|>  next
|>  major release, added new committers, and cleaned up Karma prior to
|>  graduation
|>  vote.
|>
|>  At this point the Apache Qpid community with support from its mentors
|>  feels that
|>  it is ready to graduate to an official top level project at Apache
|
| i'm a little bit in two minds about this...
|
| i have lurked on the list from time-to-time and have been impressed. i
| think that TLP is the right destination and that QPID will be an good
| addition one day.
|
| but another voice asks: are they really ready today? has the IPMC
| fully equipped them for the chanlleges ahead? do they really
| understand how to mentor new independent developers into committers
| and PMCers? is the diversity sufficient to have learnt how to have
| disagreements on technical matters whilst retaining community spirit?
|
| right or wrong, i'm not completely convinced right now...
|
| - robert
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