Edward,

I was going to email you about this weeks ago, when I first saw this proposal.  
You are working in a vacuum too much, I think that's the main problem.  You are 
mentioning private e-mails, and that doesn't sound right.  Bring this up in the 
open on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and state what you'd like.  I, like Yonik and Grant, 
feel that this fits very well under Hadoop, either as a sub-project or a simply 
a contrib.

I *believe* that if you go the sub-project route, and especially if you simply 
make Hama a Hadoop contrib, no incubation is necessary, as long as Hadoop PMC 
welcomes the code.  Much simpler.

Otis
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----- Original Message ----
From: edward yoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:02:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

> Do you have a mail thread reference?

> This seems small enough in scope and so tied to Hadoop that it seems
> like it should either just be part of one of the hadoop sub-projects or
> at a maximum, a hadoop sub-project of it's own.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00136.html

But, i much talked about it via private e-mail.
They gave me a welcome, However, They also all share the need to make
incubation progress.

Thanks,
Edward.

On 3/19/08, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This seems small enough in scope and so tied to Hadoop that it seems
> like it should either just be part of one of the hadoop sub-projects or
> at a maximum, a hadoop sub-project of it's own.
>
> I see you opened
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878
> what's the status of that?
>
> -Yonik
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:02 AM, edward yoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear Incubator PMC,
> >  I've updated the Hama project proposal. Please review/update as needed
> >  and report back any concerns.
> >
> >  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal
> >
> >  Hama has a strong relationship with the hadoop, hbase and mahout
> >  project, so i discussed about become a sub-project of these project
> >  for a long time with the each community. However, The sub-project was
> >  beset with difficulties. Hence the list of committers, etc. And now we
> >  all agree that the Hama should aim to general purpose rathen than it
> >  becomes a specified piece in something.
> >
> >  
> > http://www.nabble.com/-jira--Created%3A-%28MAHOUT-16%29-Hama-contrib-package-for-the-mahout-to15998717.html
> >  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878
> >
> >  If you think this will make a good ASF project, please encourage our
> >  team members to create the world's largest matrix computational
> >  framework.
> >
> >  Thanks.
> >  B. Regards,
> >  Edward yoon @ NHN, corp.
> >
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