Paul Fremantle wrote:
Kelvin, NoNameProposers
Maybe no-one has responded yet because no-one wants to ask the hard
questions! So here I go:
Perhaps you can explain why this effort isn't being rolled into the
Tuscany work.
There are some obvious reasons why I am confused by this proposal:
1. Tuscany already has the objective of producing code for SDO, and
already has code for SDO.
2. Tuscany was another proposal to the IPMC predominantly coming from
IBM and BEA employees.
3. The BEA committers left Tuscany and created a fork elsewhere
3. Tuscany has been identified as lacking diversity.
Why will this project gain diversity when Tuscany is finding it hard?
This move seems designed to make it even harder for both Tuscany and
NNYP to get diversity by splitting the pool of potential committers
even more thinly.
I did read the paragraph on the relationship to Tuscany but I'm afraid
I came out more confused.
I'm sure there are more hard questions but I think that's enough to be
going on with.
I'll jump in on the points related to Tuscany. I don't think this new
incubator would necessarily harm Tuscany's diversity. If it broadens the
open source community around SDO, there will more people interested
in SDO and they may get involved in Tuscany to improve Tuscany's SCA
support for SDO (as well as the many other databindings that Tuscany
SCA provides).
I think it's good for this work to be done in an open community rather
than as an in-house collaboration between vendors. I'm not sure why
the points about the history of IBM and BEA's involvement in Tuscany
are being raised. The facts as stated are correct, and I'm sure the
IBM and BEA people putting forward this proposal are well aware of them.
If they have decided that they are willing to work together on this
project and open it to a broader community, I see this as something
positive that should be encouraged.
Simon
Regards,
Paul
On Jan 31, 2008 9:47 AM, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NoNameYetProposal
That's what you get for employing reuse tactics -- gmail remembers the
original URL. I've been caught by this before, so I thought I had taken
appropriate action to avoid this behaviour, but sadly not so, apologies.
Kelvin
On 31/01/2008, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,
We've posted an Apache Incubator proposal onto the incubator wiki
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NoNameYetProposal
We haven't got a good name yet, SandStorm is a contender, as is Snowdon
Suggestions and comments welcome,
Kelvin.
<http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ThriftProposal>
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