On 6/8/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Noel

I'm also with you - I don't think that - unless the ODE community have
some concerns - there is any need for any votes. I simply started a
vote on general because I thought it might be quicker than arguing
about whether a vote was necessary!


No concerns whatsoever, we're the ones who've been asking for help and
guidance so we're pretty happy with the outcome. I guess in some other,
maybe inversed situations (the IPMC pro-actively proposes a new mentor for a
podling for example), a vote could make sense.

Cheers,
Matthieu

AFAIC we can get on and bootstrap the PPMC now.

Paul

On 6/8/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Cool :) So should we have a vote on ode-dev then?
>
> <<shrug>>
>
> Sometimes I think that we get a bit vote happy.  Is this really
something
> that is in need of a vote?  E.g., is this a policy decision, karma grant
or
> code release?  Does being a Mentor grant any special powers/rights?  Is
it
> really just a term for a PMC Member who is actively engaged in the
mutual
> act of mentoring the community?
>
> Now, let us say that you have a vote.  The result is 6 to 4.  Majority,
even
> 60%.  But I'd hardly consider that a consensus.  On the other hand, if
there
> is a clear consensus, do we always need to explicitly count it?
>
> Consider: do we need to vote for a release manager?  The answer is no,
by
> the way.  We vote for a release, though.  We require a community
decision on
> the release, in large measure to protect individuals.
>
>         --- Noel
>
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