Craig L Russell wrote:
> I have a slightly different view of this.
> 
> The phrase "I survived the Incubator" and "all I got was this lousy T-
> shirt" seem incongruous, and combining them doesn't quite work. "I 
> survived..." stands alone.
> 
> And I agree with Noel that the survival meme isn't quite the self-
> deprecating message I'm looking for.
> 
> How about "Our project incubated at Apache and all I got was this  lousy
> T-shirt"?

or "Our project {hatched|graduated} from the Apache Incubator and all I
got was this lousy T-shirt"

either hatched or graduated would be a more positive success than
"survival" and could turn the t-shirt into a talking point for those who
want to know what it means.

-jean


> Craig
> 
> On May 12, 2007, at 2:39 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> 
>> On 5/12/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> > ["We Survived the Apache Incubator
>>>
>>> is probably not a meme we want to perpetuate.  But I like the idea 
>>> overall,
>>> if we can come up with a more positive concept.
>>
>>
>> i like the self deprecating humour. the incubator is high ceremony so
>> i don't see there's much harm in a little bit of light relief after
>> graduation.
>>
>> - robert
>>
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