William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
Interested in what other views are there.

My view:

* Not mirroring tar.gz releases is dumb. Infra aren't worried about
the bandwidth and it's pointless to not put things on mirrors.

I'll concur.

* Pulling releases because something didn't graduate is bad.

I laugh - of course it isn't 'bad', but there's no reason not to pull
down a disbanded /dist/incubator/deadproject/ site, since they live
for next-to-eternity in archive.apache.org.

My only concern is that incubator releases are more prone to IP and
other issues of a legal nature than a graduated project's release, so
I still think they should be cloistered.  But I'm done advocating for
it, so unless others have legit objections, fix it already.  Roy's
already done a good job advocating -for- www.apache.org/dist/incubator/
as the distribution point of incubating projects.

I have to completely disagree with this last statement. Incubator releases are vetted 1000% more than your average TLP release I would venture. To get a release out of the incubator, you have to run it by the entire IPMC, and have it reviewed. That, certainly in projects I've been involved in, has led to a lot of legal introspection. That level of introspection isn't demanded of a TLP (by virtue of not having to get an external agency to approve a release).

Thus I'd suggest that incubator projects stand some chance of being in better shape than those of TLPs.

Personally, I think that is quite natural, and to be expected, in terms of how meritocracies tend to be better at managing/policing their borders than what happens inside.

Regards, Upayavira

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