Garrett Rooney wrote: > On 11/17/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> John O'Hara wrote: >> > I don't think its the same as releasing another projects code. >> > A good example is when SubVersion included APR as part of its code >> > base. No one would have confused that as a release of APR, and >> > it was patched and modded, and the APR team were kept in the loop. >> >> Actually, in spite of a wide open-door policy from the apr team to the >> svn and httpd developer communities, it indicates a breakdown of apr >> meeting the needs of svn (it's second consumer) and in svn failing to >> effectively participate in apr. So I actually find it a bad example :) > > That's total BS. The svn and httpd teams worked quite hard to get > their fixes in to APR, and I'm not aware of them either distributing > patched releases, only snapshots, and eventually releases. The only > reason that releases and snapshots were distributed was that for a > long time you couldn't expect to find APR installed on most machines, > and the svn team wanted to avoid requiring people to scramble around > looking for dependencies.
Yes - the failures were early on and remedied (and amusingly enough, the situation around expat and pcre in httpd has similarly improved.) I was speaking of the early failures that we learned from. > These days it isn't even distributed as > part of the default release tarball, but as part of a separate deps > tarball that just holds extra dependencies. Yup - living on the bleeding edge of a support library is an interesting place to be. The point was not to slam svn about apr, or httpd about pcre or expat, but to point out that this is a problem to be solved. It's not (living with snapshots of dependent sources) an issue that we should worry about persisting. And in this case it *is* part of the release the project is voting on, and in one sense, becomes a release of the dependency. Paul explained it clearly. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
