Hi,
In my personal opinion, for normal (non-Incubating) projects, if you
can't get a real release from your dependency (that's the ideal goal,
is Jukka pointed out), you have to get at least an SVN tag or a
labelled nightly build.  There has to be a way to get at the
dependency code outside of the dependant package.  I would ask the
dependency to at least create an SVN tag (e.g. MINA_20061116_QPID_0.1)
for this purpose.

For Incubating projects, I'm very hesitant about the above.  The
reason is that we've been paying a lot of attention to podling
releases and validation thereof.  If the dependency podling, MINA in
this case, has never had an ASF-approved release, we're getting into
dicey territory, and I would say, reluctantly, that its binaries
shouldn't be included in another project.

Yoav

On 11/17/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jukka

As a general point, there may be a significant delay in getting a
release with a given patch in it. For example, the Synapse incubator
relies on Axis2. Axis2 is a fairly significant project and they would
be unlikely to be willing or able to create a release with a few minor
patches outside of their planned release cycle. I would not expect
them to either.

So while that is one answer, I don't think it will always apply in every case.

Paul

On 11/17/06, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 11/17/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Qpid community has been debating whether or not they should
> > include an unreleased snapshot version of MINA within their upcoming
> > Qpid release, and whether they would even be allowed to do so by
> > "Apache rules".
>
> Did you already consider working with the MINA community to have a
> proper release as your dependency? I don't think it should be too hard
> to do, the main issues being:
>
> 1) Technical: Is the code good enough for a release? You already think
> the code is good.
>
> 2) Community: Is there a release manager? If no-one in the MINA
> community is interested, there's no stopping one of you from
> volunteering.
>
> 3) Oversight: Is the PMC ready to approve the release? This should
> really be up to the MINA PMC to decide.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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