Gwyn Evans wrote: > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > >Eelco, > > > >Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with > >infra always pushed back on a confluence install. *But* a very vocal > >group demanded that it be installed and promised to maintain it. But > >when the time comes, they are not there. So who is at fault? > > > >All infra folks come from different backgrounds and have different > >capabilities and have different amounts of times to spend on > >problem(s). > > > >I guess, we should put up a disclaimer in incubator process document > >saying "If you bring your project here, you may have to help with ugly > >infra stuff" and may be another item in the incubator graduation check > >list saying "is anyone from this project helping with infra", if not > >give them the boot! > > Well, the issue is that there doesn't actually appears to be any way > in which a new member /can/ help in any significant way, as it appears > the existing members are too busy with their existing problems to do > reasonably expect them to take on the additional work involved in > getting new members up to speed...
There are many points listed at http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist which are ways that committers can help, e.g. "Answer questions that other people ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is immensely beneficial to the rest of the team, as it allows them space to get on with other things." i.e. refer people to specific docs at a.o/dev/ You would be amazed at how many people don't look there first. -David > >Eelco Hillenius wrote: > >> Davanum Srinivas wrote: > >> > Please turn your rant into something constructive. join the infra > >> > mailing list and help out where you can. > >>... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]