On 10/12/06, Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Endre Stølsvik wrote:
>
>> My two (probably rather worthless) cents:
>
> Not at all worthless. What you posted is perfectly valid feedback, and
> should be considered by projects. But does it rise to the standard of
> needing to be enforced?
In my opinion, yes.
This is because if not, every project might insist that "their packaging
is better", or just not think about it, and thus not follow the defacto
standard, if there is such a thing.
Why are there such differences now, then?
This is, if one would go for such an approach, a top-level decision that
shouldn't be up to the projects to decide - you're "apache compliant"
only if you follow this packaging. And it really isn't a big enforcement
either, it's just that it should be crammed in from the get-go, so that
the projects do think about it, and started out in line with the rest.
Note that I do not in any way suggest that the entire layout of the
system, nor the build system (!!) or similar should be enforced, just
the end-packaging for the "bins" (which really is what (most) people
download - they want "the working stuff", the open source aspect is in
this regard just a potential tailorability and important safety (and
hopefully quality) sign).
Imo ASF has enough written and unwritten rules. Following discussions
on this forum since a few weeks feels like making the transition from
a small young company to a large old one, where procedures and
politics are more prevalent than a more practical 'can do' spirit.
Sorry, no offense intended. I just think that 'enforcing' anything
other than the bare necessities is a bad idea. Whether it is the
binary packaging, whether to have discussions on IRC or distributing
incubator releases via a maven repo. Forcing rules rather then
encouraging best practices is counter is hard to achieve and only
irritating for those who still don't agree even if they gave it a
serious thought. A more positive approach - documenting, discussing
and automated support like maven does provide with it's standard
layout and distros - works much better imho.
My lousy 2c :)
Eelco
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