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For some reason, I had the impression that there was
a phantom 'P' somewhere in the references to 'PMC'
going back and forth between Noel and Roy.

For the record, I disagree with Noel that only PMC
members (and I use the term advisedly) have binding
votes.  My belief is that only PPMC members have
binding votes, and that all committers should automatically
be on the PPMC.

I do not go along with Noel's remarks re PMC and legality;
one of the aspects of the incubator is that podlings
are very carefully contained and *unable* to make
decisions binding on the ASF.  Therefore, there should
be no issue about the bindingness of voted by PPMC members
who aren't also PMC members -- they should be binding on
the ppodling.  I mean 'podling.' :-)
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#ken    P-)}

Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist      http://Apache-Server.Com/

"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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