IMHO the incubator should not impose timescales or a schedule on a project but a project may decide to impose a timescale on itself.
My thought is that a time scale would be part of the proposal. If that proposal is voted in, it would also mean the time scale is excepted and thus - unless urgent reasons exist not to - should be adhered to by all parties involved.
the project is (of course) equally free to ignore or interpret this schedule as it pleases since it is not binding on apache.
Time scales without such binding would not be very useful. Democracy and timelines do not conflict. There are many instances where timelines in open development are agreed upon, such as waiting periods and vote windows. I don't see why that can't be applied to the incubation process, other than that it is less convenient for ASF (though I believe it would bring convenience of clarity and a stream-lined process in the long run). Adopting time lines could be a step towards making the incubation process less soft and single-sided. The current process is convenient for everyone but the members of the project to incubate - whether that is because of things like the 'prior proof' issue I talked about earlier or things like the lack of timelines. Improving such things would make the process more straightforward to execute and less vulnerable for subjectivity, and regarding the incubating party as more of an equal would imvho be very much 'the open development way'. Eelco --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]