I agree that the debate on the name is not a useful discussion. If nobody else has a problem with the use of proper nouns in general can I suggest that we move back to discussing the more significant points raised by others?
Regarding the openness of the standard and its processes, I would like to reiterate the point Gordon Sim made about treating the protocol standard separately from the Glasgow implementation. There are several other organisations involved in the AMQP standard - the organisations and people who are working on Glasgow are only a subset of the AMQP group. I personally am in favour of the technical protocol discussions taking place in public mailing lists, but neither I nor any other member of the Glasgow project can speak for the AMQP group as a whole. We can put a case forward for the lists to be made public and the members can vote to decide whether to adopt that proposal. Robert "Larry Cable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <general@incubator.apache.org> cc: 04/08/2006 18:12 Subject: RE: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze) Please respond to general If "Apache" is acceptable for the name of this organization then I see no reason to waste anyone else's time on a rather pointless debate regarding the appropriateness of naming this project 'Glasgow' or not. FYI, as a point of historical interest (and it's not that interesting), purely as a 'comment' on the Microsoft practice of naming their O.S releases after cities, we named a couple of releases of JavaBeans 'Glasgow' and 'Edinburgh', mostly because Graham Hamilton and I were from Scotland. Regards - Larry Cable _______________________________________________________________________ Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please immediately return this by email and then delete it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]