sorry for the late reply..
David Crossley wrote:
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The use of e-mail as the primary means for communication is part of ASF
policy and philosophy, and we can certainly learn lessons from projects
that
have gone against it. IRC tends to breed a more closed, albeit arguably
more integrated, community.
That said, if IRC can be used as a learning tool to rapidly bring new
people
up to speed, and if the information gathered from those sessions is
preserved for others to follow up via web-site and e-mail, how do people
perceive that?
IRC can be great as a learning tool, but the downside I have seen is
that often that information that is learned is not documented (e.g. in a
Wiki or mailing list) for the benefit of others and the same questions
may end up being asked by many people over time.
I've never done that on a project, but I think it could be a
reasonable thing for a project to try. I believe the Synapse folks
have been doing regular IRC meetings from early on. I'd be interested
in their perspective on the pros and cons, particularly as an
incubating project.
As a XAP mentor, I know that the committers already understand that no
decisions will be made over IRC, that logs of each IRC will be
immediately made available to the entire community, and that they need
to be sensitive to any concerns from people wishing but unable to
participate. But, are there other thoughts from the Synapse folks or
anyone else who has used regular IRC meetings?
At Apache Forrest we strive to have all communication
via the mailing lists.
We have a deliberate IRC session once per month.
It goes for 24 hours so that everyone can be involved.
It is the second Friday of the month starting at a
specific time. We use a different channel name, chosen
by the operator. That prevents the channel from being
constantly available and turning into either a club
or a support forum.
http://forrest.apache.org/forrest-friday.html
We simultaneously use the dev@ mailing list.
Some issues are better dealt with there.
The committer who is operator does a regular commit of
the logfile to our SVN. This keeps good track and allows
us to refer to the log during the meeting. It could
also enable people not on IRC to still be involved
because they could reply to the svn commit email.
Currently in Geronimo we don't post IRC logs to the dev list but have
plans to do so in an automated fashion.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=114912883000003&r=1&w=2
We have said that we will also create a summary text
of the days events. This latter task has not been
carried out very well.
I don't think it is realistic on busy IRC forums for one person to have
the job of summarizing the IRC log for the day considering there may be
a large number of different issues discussed by different people and the
person summarizing may not understand what all the issues were.
Probably better if individuals summarized their discussions.
John
Personally i reckon that the events have been very
beneficial. I am still wary of using IRC more often
than that.
-David
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