On Mar 15, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Hiram Chirino wrote:
If the ActiveMQ / ServiceMix community do decide to go under some
other TLP, I'm sure it would not take long for the active
participants of the community to asked to Join the TLP's PMC.
I would certainly hope that they would want to be, yes. Hence ...
I believe that merging ActiveMQ and Servicemix into Geronimo
community and PMC is easier than most cases since there are
all ready several active ActiveMQ/ServiceMix commiters thar
are Geronimo PMC members.
At this moment, Geronimo has 19 PMC members and 7 commmiters who
are not on
the PMC. That does, of course, change over time.
The overlap of ActiveMQ and ServiceMix with the Geronimo PMC has 10
PMC
members. ActiveMQ has 13 additional people who are not on the
Geronimo PMC.
Adding ServiceMix is just another 4 (17 total), as there is a huge
overlap
between ActiveMQ and ServiceMix.
I have no idea how active any of these people are on any of the
projects in
any capacity. Dims appears to feel that there is a large number of
committers in name only, but I haven't looked at all so for the
sake of
discussion, let's assume that they are all active. Adding ActiveMQ
and
ServiceMix to Geronimo could increase the size of Geronimo's
community from
26 to ~40, and assuming a comparable ratio, the PMC from 19 to 30+.
So is Geronimo prepared to take such actions? Should it be, at
this time?
And what would that do for diversity, since a lot of people appear
to work
for the same company?
As a Geronimo PMC member, my current feelings on granting commit and
pmc membership fall into three categories: existing G committers,
active committers and inactive committers. Existing G committers are
a non issue. Active committers should absolutely get commit access
to G and assuming they remain active during the incubation period
(several committs) they should be added to the G pmc. Inactive
committers should not get added to the PMC. As for commit, I think
this is a case by case basis. If the person committed major work in
the past, I give them commit, on the other hand if they only
committed one file, I wouldn't give them commit. The difficult
decisions will be in the middle, and I will look for guidance from
AMQ and SM on these people.
As we begin to discuss the final graduation of these projects into
Geronimo, I may be convinced of another set of guidelines.
-dain
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