Would it not be more expedient to have Ode as an umbrella project -
but the goal would to be to try and find commonality between all the
projects and see it's possible to merge?
It's a complex problem - no doubt (not because the individual code
bases are complex - but they are completely different) - but we have
a proposal, if it's accepted in its current form, we can as a
community can start working with the code and assessing points of
integration - to see how feasible it would be. If we all decide at
that point it's not practicable to have one project - but need to
have two or three - can't we make that decision later ? I don't know
how the incubator is meant to work (still finding my feet) - but I
would have thought the incubator would be able to work this way.
cheers,
Rob
On 17 Feb 2006, at 11:59, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 08:52 +0000, James Strachan wrote:
Integrating the two code bases together is gonna be a slow, iterative
s/two/three/.
process; we're talking complex code here. It could be that to start
with things are completely separate, after 6 months they are 10%
common, 2 years 50% common etc. The figuring out "how to cut-n-shop &
mix-n-match" could well take 5 years as this is an ongoing iterative
process. Sure we'll be heading closer and closer towards a unified
engine but it could take a long time to get there (and pieces could
very well never completely merge).
What you've described is a process where Ode is by design an umbrella
project. I for one am not ready to accept an entire umbrella
project for
incubation all at once - that's basically saying the entire discussion
about how we're going to merge stuff is an academic discussion isn't
it??
I totally agree these codebases are large and complicated (remember I
was the one who was surprised how fast people found that the Sybase
codebase was nice and cool). If you really think the best solution is
not to force them to merge then let's not go down the single project
incubation path. That's a path that'll guarantee that the project will
never graduate IMO.
I have no problem saying we're going to incubate three different BPEL
impls at the same time, but I am sure everyone realizes the reality
that
that's likely to mean none of them will really capture a dominant
place
in the world simply because 3's just too many. I guess that's fine
too.
Sanjiva.
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